Hi Acee,

Thanks for your inputs and we'll update the draft accordingly.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:54 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Speaking as WG Member and Document Shepherd:
>
>
>
> I agree on both points. With the exception of the use case in section 2.1,
> the draft is very easy to understand. By replacing it with the maintenance
> case, you’ll make the entire draft understandable.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee
>
>
>
> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:53 AM
> *To: *"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *Acee Lindem <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "
> [email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: Working Group Last Call for
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric - "OSPF Reverse Metric"
>
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
>
>
> Please check inline below.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:13 PM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I support progressing this draft.
>
> However, I have some concerns about the current content – specifically the
> use cases – which I would like to see addressed before going to Last Call.
>
>
>
> The equivalent functionality is defined in RFC 8500 for IS-IS and has
> proven useful – make sense to also have it for OSPF.
>
> But the primary use case discussed in RFC 8500 is during maintenance –
> which is discussed extensively and is mentioned as the first use case.
>
> In the case of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric, the maintenance use
> case is not even mentioned.
>
>
>
> KT> I agree that the maintenance use case is quite useful and the reverse
> metric is one of the mechanisms for achieving that in OSPF. We can add that
> to the draft.
>
>
>
>
>
> Of the two use cases that are mentioned, the one in Section 2.1 has many
> limitations and constraints. These include:
>
>
>
> · Only works when there is a switch in the middle – something which the
> protocol is not able to detect
>
> · Only works in the presence of symmetrical metrics
>
> · If both neighbors have L2 bundles to the switch and are both doing
> auto-cost adjustment based on the number of members currently up, the
> mechanism doesn’t work
>
> · Detecting symmetrical metrics in the presence of reverse metric is
> problematical. Is the neighbor cost including the reverse metric or does it
> reflect something else (e.g., config change on the neighbor)
>
>
>
> I would prefer that this use case be removed. If not, a more complete
> discussion of the limitations should be included.
>
>
>
> KT> The use cases are only illustrative and I don't see it beneficial to
> get into an elaborate discussion of a specific use case. I also agree that
> this particular use case is constrained and not a "general" one. So, it
> should be ok for us to take this one out unless there are any objections.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> In summary, before progressing this draft I would like to see maintenance
> included as the primary use case and the use case described in Section 2.1
> removed.
>
>
>
>     Les
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lsr <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Acee Lindem (acee)
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2022 12:18 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric - "OSPF Reverse Metric"
>
>
>
> This begins a Working Group Last Call for
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric. While there hasn’t been as much
> discussion as I would like on the draft,  it is filling a gap in OSPF
> corresponding to IS-IS Reverse Metric (RFC 8500).  Please review and send
> your comments, support, or objection to this list before 12 AM UTC on April
> 22nd, 2022.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee
>
>
>
>
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