Aijun,

On 03/05/2022 15:52, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Peter:
I think the logic is the following:
FAPM is the sub-TLV of TLV 135,235,236 and 237, then it extends these TLVs for 
advertising prefixes in algorithm 0 to other Flexible Algorithm.
Then I see no reason to define the new top-TLV to encoding the similar 
information.

FAPM is used in SR-MPLS case where algo 0 prefix has multiple flex-algo SIDs. So the algo 0 reachability is always advertised in legacy TLV and FAPM is used to advertise additional flex-algo metric for inter-area or external prefixes.

We can not use it for IP flex-algo.

thanks,
Peter


Aijun Wang
China Telecom

On May 3, 2022, at 19:16, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hi Aijun,

On 03/05/2022 11:57, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Peter:
Different data planes use different Flex-Algorithm and associated metric, they 
can’t be mixed.
Or, would you like to point out why the following scenarios can’t be achieved 
via the FAPM?
1) The PE router has three loopback addresses(Lo1-Lo3), each associated with 
different Flex-ALgorithhms, and also different metrics. They are advertised via 
the FAPM, no MPLS SIDs are associated with these loopack prefixes 
advertisements.
2) The PE router has also another inter-area/inter-domain prefixes(IPextra), 
with the FAPM and MPLS SID advertised via the prefixes advertisements.
When the PE in other ends want to send the traffic to theses addresses:
1)  To the formers three destinations(Lo1-Lo3), the FIB that are formed by the 
associated FAPM will be used, that is, the IP-based forwarding will be selected.
2) To the Inter-area/inter-domain prefixes the FIB that are formed via the FAPM 
and the associated SID, the MPLS-based forwarding will be selected.
Why can’t they coexist?

FAPM Sub-TLV is a sub-TLV of TLVs 135, 235, 236, and 237. These TLVs advertise 
the reachability of the prefix in algorithm 0.

For an IP algo prefix, which is associated with the flex-algorithm, the 
reachability in algorithm 0 must not be advertised. So we have to use a 
different top level TLV.


thanks,
Peter



Aijun Wang
China Telecom
On May 3, 2022, at 16:05, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Aijun,

On 03/05/2022 09:59, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Peter:
The definition of FAPM for IS-IS and OSPF doesn’t prevent from it is used for 
the intra-area prefixes.
If we advertise the different loopback addresses via the FAPM, associate them 
to different Flex-Algo and related metrics, and does not allocate the MPLS SID, 
we can achieve the IP-Flex effect then.

as I said, we can not mix metrics for different data-planes.

So, what’s the additional value of the IP-Flexalgo draft then?

please read the draft. It defines the flex-algo for IP data plane.

thanks,
Peter



Aijun Wang
China Telecom
On May 3, 2022, at 14:46, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Aijun,

On 03/05/2022 00:47, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Acee:
The questions raised at 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/RlHphXCwxMbgGvcBV_m24xiDzS0/ 
<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/RlHphXCwxMbgGvcBV_m24xiDzS0/> has 
not been answered.

IS-IS Flexible Algorithm Prefix Metric Sub-TLV” and “OSPF Flexible Algorithm 
Prefix Metric Sub-TLV” are defined for advertisement of algorithm specific 
metric for inter-area inter-AS prefixes for SR-MPLS data-plane.

SR MPLS and IP are independent data-planes used for flex-algo. We can not mix 
their metric.

thanks,
Peter

Aijun Wang
China Telecom
On May 2, 2022, at 23:00, Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]> 
wrote:

The WG last call has completed. We will submit an updated version of the 
document for publication with the terminology changes based on the discussion 
amongst the authors, Ketan, Robert, Gyan, and others.

Thanks,
Acee

*From: *Lsr <[email protected]> on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" 
<[email protected]>
*Date: *Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM
*To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Cc: *"[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
*Subject: *[Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP 
Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

This begins a WG last call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04.  The draft had a 
lot of support and discussion initially and has been stable for some time. 
Please review and send your comments, support, or objection to this list before 
12 AM UTC on April 22^nd , 2022.

Thanks,
Acee

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