Dear WG

I agree with Bruno about the concerns with brownfield multi vendor
 forwarding loops regarding deployment of MP TLV extension.

+1 one comments by Bruno

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*Gyan Mishra*

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:51 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
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> I have some concerns with regards to the deployment of this extension in
> brownfield multi-vendor networks as this could result in the formation of
> persistent forwarding loops.
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> As a constructive proposal, and as mitigations, I would like the document
> be improved with the following changes:
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>    1. Sending MUST be controlled by configuration [1]
>    2. For existing TLVs (and “any level of sub-TLVs”), details the TLV
>    which could be advertised with no risks for the network and TLVs which must
>    not be advertised before all nodes be upgraded.
>    3. Given this document typically may require global support before
>    this be enabled, I think this draft would be a good candidate for the
>    addition of the relevant yang module as per draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang
>    [3]. I personally don’t see a problem with adding a normative reference to
>    an individual draft, but if I’m wrong, an option for the chairs to consider
>    would be to pause this adoption call and start an adoption call for
>    draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang.
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>  Gyan>  I agree with a. that sending must be controlled by configuration.
> I agree completely that there should be listing of TLVs at any level top or
> sub TLV that are supported at no risk and the ones that must not be
> advertised before nodes are upgraded.  Also am in agreement on c. don’t see
> any harm.
>
Some of those comments are not new and have already been expressed on this
> list [2]
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> I would welcome the feedback of authors on the above proposals before the
> end of this WG adoption call.
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> Thanks,
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> Regards
>
> Bruno
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> [1]
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> OLD: It is RECOMMENDED that implementations which support the sending of
> MP-TLVs provide configuration controls to enable/disable generation of
> MP-TLVs.
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> NEW: It is REQUIRED that implementations which support the sending of
> MP-TLVs provide configuration controls to enable/disable generation of
> MP-TLVs.
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>  Gyan> Agreed
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> [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/WIxRR2ZlOJHjxulfXP6Z8nZtKeU/
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> [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang
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> *From:* Lsr <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Yingzhen Qu
> *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2023 6:24 PM
> *To:* [email protected]; lsr <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv
> (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)
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> Hi,
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> This begins a WG adoption call for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv: 
> draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-04
> - Multi-part TLVs in IS-IS (ietf.org)
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv/>
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> Please send your support or objection to the list before December 9th,
> 2023. An extra week is allowed for the US Thanksgiving holiday.
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> Thanks,
>
> Yingzhen
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