Hi Ketan,

Thank you very much for your comments. I39m trying to understand your point.

 

The core idea is to differentiate between these two values, 0xffff and 0xfffe. 

One represents unreachable, and the other signifies the maximum value (cannot 
transmit traffic).

 

Based on Acee39s explanation, where the new term MaxUsableLinkMetric represents 
0xfffe and also updates 8770, 

I think these two concepts can now be distinguished, and therefore, there is no 
need to introduce UnreachableLinkMetric.



If I have misunderstood, I would greatly appreciate your correction. Thanks 
again.

 

Best Regards,

Liyan





----邮件原文----发件人:Ketan Talaulikar  <[email protected]>收件人:Acee Lindem  
<[email protected]>抄 送: Yingzhen Qu  <[email protected]>,lsr  
<[email protected]>,lsr-chairs  <[email protected]>发送时间:2024-02-28 15:43:10主题:Re: 
[Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-gong-lsr-ospf-unreachable-link(02/23/24 - 
03/08/24)Hi Acee,Thanks for your quick response. On the point (1), there are 
actually two aspects:
a) The name of the capability itself - "MaxLinkMetric support" seems odd to me 
since all implementations do support setting this metric value already. Perhaps 
"UnreachableLinkMetric support" (or something like that) seems more meaningful 
since it talks about the support for treating links with this metric value as 
unreachable. After all, the name of this "feature" and the "draft" says 
"unreachable link"?
b) The term MaxLinkMetric was defined in RFC6987/8770 to have a different 
meaning. This draft can "update" the value of that term (to 0xfffe) without 
changing its semantics. However, it would be better to define a new term 
UnreachableLinkMetric for this feature to avoid mixing of the semantics of the 
two terms. We do need both those terms/features, right?
Hope this clarifies.
Thanks,
Ketan



On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 12:00AM Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ketan, On Feb 27, 2024, at 08:16, Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Hello,I support the adoption of this document by the WG since it is a useful 
OSPF protocol extension.
I have the following comments for the authors to consider (post adoption):
1) Suggest to rename the capability bit to UnreachableLinkMetric to clearly 
distinguish it from all previous use of MaxMetric in OSPF. Also suggest to use 
this term through the document where the purpose is to mark the link as 
unreachable.


I’m not sure I understand why there would be any confusion between MaxMetric 
and MaxLinkMetric. In OSPF, we are using MaxMetric as unreachable so this 
change would just be for the corner case of OSPFv2 stub router. So, it seems to 
be consistent we should stick with MaxLinkMetric to be unreachable. 
2) This document should introduce a new MaxLinkMetric which is 0xfffe which can 
be then used as a "link of last resort" as specified in RFC6987.


The document requires use of RFC 8770 for OSPFv2 Stub Router support.  We could 
call this MaxUsableLinkMetric for this new constant. 
3) Section 3: There is no OSPF cost/metric in OSPFv2 Extended Link LSA. Also, 
not sure why the base OSPFv3 5340 has been excluded from this list where the 
Router LSA carries the link cost similar to OSPFv2.


Agreed. 
4) This document should formally update the base OSPFv2/v3 RFCs since it 
changes the SPF.


Agreed - It should also update RFC 8770. 
Thanks,
Acee
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Ketan



On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:58AM Yingzhen Qu <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

This email begins a 2 week WG adoption poll for the following 
draft:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gong-lsr-ospf-unreachable-link/Please
 review the document and indicate your support or objections by March 8th, 
2024.Authors and contributors, please respond to the list indicating whether 
you are aware of any IPR that applies to the draft.Thanks,
Yingzhen 


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