Hi Xiaohu,

I think we all would agree on wanting things to be simple and this being
LSR, we will all agree that IS-IS and OSPF are the right answer.  ;-)

However, there are some downsides to using a reflector for flooding. The
first is convergence time. Even in optimal conditions, you're suggesting
bouncing updates through another system that has to amplify and retransmit
the update multiple times. This will increase latency, especially if we're
thinking of a dense WAN topology. Second, if there is a topology change,
then this can affect the path of the update significantly. Yes, it would be
best if one used multiple reflectors, but topology changes can still affect
multiple concurrent reflectors simultaneously, resulting in increased
convergence time.

Tony

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:16 AM Tiger Xu - xuxiaohu_ietf at hotmail.com <
[email protected]> wrote:

> By the way, for the five-stage CLOS network topology, which has been
> widely used in large-scale data centers, to minimize the blast radius, it
> seems straightforward to utilize the matured multi-level ISIS or multi-area
> OSPF routing architecture whenever feasible. To make it easier to deploy
> and operate, it seems beneficial to learn the usage of the BGP route
> reflector, where the route reflectors are pre-configured rather than
> computing and /or distributing the flooding topology via some complex
> algorithms, IMHO.
>
>
> In a word, the simpler, the better.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
> 发件人: Tiger Xu <[email protected]>
> 日期: 星期五, 2024年11月22日 13:14
> 收件人: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>, lsr <[email protected]>
> 主题: [Lsr] 答复: Consensus Call on LSR WG work on "Leaderless Flooding
> Algorithm for Distributed Flood Reduction to allow reduced configuration,
> minimal blast radius, and ease of incremental deployment"
>
> Hi Acee,
>
> I firmly believe it’s worthwhile to work on an additional mechanism for
> distributed flooding reduction, which is easier to deploy and has a
> minimal blast radius.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
> 发件人: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
> 日期: 星期一, 2024年11月18日 22:41
> 收件人: lsr <[email protected]>
> 主题: [Lsr] Consensus Call on LSR WG work on "Leaderless Flooding Algorithm
> for Distributed Flood Reduction to allow reduced configuration, minimal
> blast radius, and ease of incremental deployment"
>
> During the IETF 121 LSR meeting, we had an excellent discussion of
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-distoptflood/
>
> While the CDS flooding reduction algorithm itself was interesting, the
> main area of the discussion was distributed flooding reduction algorithm
> selection and its configuration and deployment.
>
> Today, we have RFC 9667 “Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs” which provides
> leader-based supporting both centralized and distributed flooding reduction
> algorithm selection. With the mechanism, an area leader is selected from
> among the OSPF routers in the area supporting flooding reduction and this
> leader selects the flooding reduction algorithm for the area.
>
> The question to be answered by this consensus call is whether or not we
> want to work on an additional mechanism just for distributed flooding
> reduction to allow for reduced configuration, minimal blast radius, and
> ease of incremental deployment.
>
> Please send your support or opposition to this list before Tuesday,
> December 3rd.
>
> As WG Co-Chair,
> Acee
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