Hi David,

> A power group can represent the entire crosspoint switch, with each
> forwarding engine as a power-group with the crosspoint switch as a parent.
Okay, I'm not sure I understand the TLVs correctly then.  How can you model the 
case where you can switch off one of the FEs if only one of a pair each of 
physical interfaces is active?

Again, we haven’t thought hard about the case of flexible power topologies.  I 
would start by using power groups to model the current power topology. This 
would leave us with a crosspoint switch, a couple of FEs and the interfaces 
under the FEs.  This would seem to be a straightforward hierarchy.  If 
interfaces are put to sleep, then when an FE has no active interfaces, it too 
can be put to sleep.

Actually - better question.  Looking at the crosspoint, would this model the 
*current* state or *possible* states?  I agree it is trivial to model the 
current state, but can you [or do you want to] express the possibility of 
changing the crosspoint configuration?

We’re only looking at current states.

Modeling potential states is not high on our to-do list, but we are open to 
suggestions.

> We have been trying for years to get the appropriate YANG model
> standardized.  The GREEN WG is still discussing terminology.  We are not
> young enough to take that path.
I believe I am younger than you, but yes, this is why I went with "I'm not 
sure" ;-)

At this point, just about everyone is younger than me. 😉.

> In most cases, getting live/actual power is very hard.  Most devices don't
> have a built-in power meter.  As I said at the mic, we are hoping for best
> effort numbers, which in many cases, will be a static average-case number.
Ok, I wasn't sure how dynamic this data would be/where it'd be sourced from.  
That said, it probably makes sense to incorporate a warning about this into the 
document ("don't try to be clever if you have live consumption data, you can 
shoot yourself in the foot with oscillations")

Fair point.

T

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