Hi Tony,

Ok so we established that at best for 1RUs boxes you could turn off the
laser.

> The low link utilization for transition to power sleep is a configurable
level.

My question was the opposite. Let me rephrase - What is the ceiling in %
you would allow to consolidate traffic onto any link ? I don't think this
is "beyond the scope of the doc" and making it configurable 0-100% is an
answer. Quite contrary IMO.

And seeing proposals in LSR which actually aim to do the opposite (spread
traffic when threshold is exceeded on a link) it becomes an interesting
question which way operators should go :)

> The use of power groups would not change the flex algo topology.

Yes, that is pretty obvious.

> Traffic would remain within the same algorithm.

So to make sure I understand .. you can only consolidate within the
boundaries of a given Flex-Algo ?

I do not see anywhere in the document including section 3.1 how do you
associate flexible-algorithms topology to power groups. Note that a
link/interface can belong to more than one flex-algo.

With that I think the current encoding does not seem to provide a per
flex-algo association.

Kind regards,
Robert


On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 8:07 AM Tony Li <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Dealing with a pizza box is straightforward.  In section 3.3.2 we describe
> the interface PSP TLV.  This carries the power savings potential for an
> interface.  The power consumption of the QSFP would belong in that TLV.
>
> The low link utilization for transition to power sleep is a configurable
> level.
>
> The use of power groups would not change the flex algo topology.  Traffic
> would remain within the same algorithm.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 11:01 PM Robert Raszuk - robert at raszuk.net <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> I am not sure what types of platforms Zafar had in mind but I would be
>> interested in your response how do you apply concept of power groups
>> to single-chip/systems-on-chip (SoCs) 1RU pizza ODM boxes.
>>
>> Would you say put each QSFP into a separate group and the only saving you
>> could claim is to turn off laser on the selective sender interfaces after
>> drying the entire traffic on it ?
>>
>> - - - A side two question - - -
>>
>> 1)
>> To what % number of link utilization do you consider acceptable to
>> consolidate traffic for the purpose of power saving on some other links ?
>>
>> 2)
>> If the network is built in a bit complex way ... say there is Algo 0 but
>> also 16 other Flex_Algo topologies I have a question how do you account for
>> that such that before the optimization and after optimization traffic
>> suddenly is not forwarded in a "foreign" topology ? Or is the current
>> proposal simply not interested in addressing such networks ?
>>
>> Thx,
>> R.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 9:55 AM Bonica, Ron <ronald.bonica=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Zafar,
>>>
>>> If I understood your comment during the IETF 126 session correctly, you
>>> said that the Power Group model may not support some existing hardware
>>> architectures. Can you describe such an architecture?
>>>
>>>                                                                  Ron
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