Hello,

As Kem indicated, this will be handled as a design issue.  The disk
estimates are frozen for now.  Thanks!

Jeff

> From: "Kem Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: LSST Data Management <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:30:47 -0700 (PDT)
> To: "LSST Data Management" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LSST-data] updated database storage and disk io estimates
> 
> Keywords: DataAccWG
> 
> The deep stellar detections in the non-plane fields will be in r and i,
> and not in z or y due to the decreased QE and fewer number of exposures in
> the redder bands.  So, there will be stars with r and no y, as well as y
> with no r.  So, it is not strictly true that the r band detections are a
> sub-set of the y.   The numbers should be within our margins, but it
> should be remembered when designing/building the object catalog.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Kem
> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> I published in docushare the latest version of database
>> storage estimates and disk io estimates (Collection-413)
>> It includes latest numbers/assumptions provided by Tim,
>> and the changes discussed/approved at the database
>> telecon (Jul 12).
>> 
>> In summary, we now expect
>>   - to have 164 TB of data after the first year (down from 600)
>>   - to need 1.6 K disks for the assumed query load (down from 4 K)
>> 
>> Note that:
>> 
>> 1) there is still a small debate over the galaxy numbers
>> for DR20 ("should be more like 18 billion"), and the star
>> numbers ("should be the 10 billion from the r-band counts"),
>> so further updates are likely.
>> 
>> 2) We are still working on details regarding which table
>> should be used by which query (DIASource vs Source). This
>> can change disk io (reduce it - now I am using Source)
>> 
>> 3) I introduced small data duplication by extracting 6 rows
>> from the Source table into a separate table in order to reduce
>> disk io for the near-neighbor query by 85% (which reduced
>> overall disk requirement by half). That should be ok given
>> we asked for 150% of data size for this sort of
>> "persistent overheads" (and are now "using" 8 TB out of 53 TB
>> in DR1, or 15%)
>> 
>> 
>> One worry that I have is that the estimates are now for
>> DR1 and in DR1 the Source table is "tiny" (if one can call
>> 40-billion-row table "tiny") comparing to what we will
>> have to deal with later (for example in release 5
>> it is 10x bigger). The used DR number is selected based on
>> number of objects in Object Catalog: we need 10 billion and
>> DR1 has over 22 already.
>> 
>> 
>> Jacek
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