I would also suggest spending a few years in Scandinavia. The distance to power is not anything like it is in the States; there is a strong and independent press that does a very good job of uncovering the occasional scandal and corruption; all of which is bolstered by highest literacy rates and an astonishingly civil "debate climate" as it is called here among the _nine_ significant political parties. Materially supported by strong social-welfare systems that keeps inequalities to a minimum while maintaining strong economies (contra the anti-tax dogmas of those in the US). It is probably also necessary, however, to have a relatively small population - 5 million or so each in Norway and Denmark, the countries of my primary experience - who also enjoy the highest levels of mutual trust on the planet: 71% of Norwegians say yes to questions like "do you think you can trust most people to do the right thing," starting with fulfilling their promises and obligations to others - vs. 38% in the US.

This should not be a surprise. James Carey (1989) has pointed out that the US has been shaped by an emphasis on communication since the Federalist Papers' discussion of Plato's problem of "the natural limits of democracy" - i.e., participation in deliberation and debate required physical co-presence; establish a travel limit of one day by foot or animal to get to the places of deliberation and it rounds out to a state of some 50 square miles (if memory serves). Government-funded roads and canals were argued to be solutions to the problem - communication technologies followed suite. (This is also part of the source of our shared optimism in "liberation technology" - starting with communication technologies, as having the potential for enhancing democracy, emancipation, etc.) Whatever the advantages and disadvantages of such technologies - thank you, Cambridge Analytica - these countries and peoples enjoy far more of a sense of physical co-presence than is possible in the US: "Denmark is not a country, it's a tribe," one US anthropologist determined after some 20 years there.

As well, there is a different sense of what it means to be a human being. "Mature human beings" are understood to be both individual and relational. The atomistic senses of individualism in the US - resting ultimately on Hobbes, Adam Smith, and their shared presumptions from Augustine that Original Sin has made each of us desire-driven and utterly selfish - see relationship with others as a threat to one's own possible freedom: we can only be free _from_ the constraints others impose - leading, without an authoritarian state to keep us under control, to the war of each against all. Here, there are many ways in which we are more free _through_ our relationships with one another, rather than against one another. The latter is understood at some sort of theoretical level in the States - and instinctively attacked and rejected by many, of course, first of all as it goes against their enculturation, whatever their political views may be. Sorry, such relational selfhood is real and, here at least, it works in ways fully consistent with individual freedom and flourishing. (Free - and usually excellent - public education, including university education is especially helpful, contra the highly class-dependent systems in the US.) But you'll likely have to live here for some years to come to fully experience it "on your own body" as it is said in the Germanic languages to get a good sense of it beyond the theoretical outlines.

Hope this is helpful -
- charles

On 08/01/2020 04:37, Rand Strauss wrote:
> The Great Scam known as Democracy... its trick, lure, fraud, and forever unfixable...

Democracy isn’t a scam. So far, it’s a theory and a myth.
We don’t have a democracy.  Humanity has never had a true representative democracy of any large number of people.
And the US political system is less democratic than most.

In a true democracy, the people have power.  For that to happen in a representative democracy, the representatives must be accountable to the people. Very, very few people know what accountability is, so it’s not surprising that most don’t realize it’s missing.

Ever since the founding of the US, many have had an idea about accountability. Democracy works pretty well when representatives and voters believe representatives are accountable and when they make efforts to /be/ accountable, even though at best they deliver very little accountability. Without accountability, democracy becomes increasingly unstable, and representatives are increasingly accountable to others, to ideologies, to the wealthy and to the parties. This fake-democracy is where we find ourselves today.

"Political Science" isn’t really a science.  It tries to study the political organizations that exist, but with the myth that it’s somewhat representative of what’s possible.  It’s not.  When sciences are fruitful at all, they give rise to engineering disciplines.  This hasn’t happened with politics.  Political Science is in its infancy, like medicine was 200 years ago.  The "engineers" are charlatans, brandishing snake-oil such as marketing slogans and advertising campaigns. At best, they’re pollsters, pretending that the fast answers of surprised, non-responsible people to much-too simplistic questions are indicative of people’s desires.

Much more is possible.  Plus, the political system can be pretty easily fixed.  But most people are deeply resigned— usually much more than they realize— and would rather complain about their supposed insights into the most shallow observations of the system’s problems than peer into its depths where the clues to real solutions lie.

The claim that it’s "unfixable" is simply more shallow, cynical guessing.  If you think a problem isn’t fixable, it mostly tells you that you haven’t thought deeply enough.  It’s probably also true that you’re thinking "inside the box," in the terms the status quo uses to ensure it’s continuation.  Try getting outside the box.

For instance, try thinking:

  * Political campaigns are expensive because they use inefficient
    communication.
  * Representatives continually push messages to voters, which doesn’t
    work. What happens if you reverse this paradigm?
  * What’s a rigorous definition of accountability?
  * What’s a rigorous /functional/ definition?
  * Many voters are apathetic and ignorant because caring and learning
    result in frustration.
  * The media market doesn’t offer good, concise information because
    people don’t need it.
  * The shape of our /whole /political system- voters, elections, voter
    registration, campaigns, polls, media, parties, incumbents,
    representation, congress and the presidency- not the /fact/ that we
    have these, but their separate and combined shapes and organizations
    are a /perfect/ fit for the results we have, the lying, the
    corruption, the lack of competition, all of it

What effects the shape of things most is its foundation.  When a system is so broadly broken, you’re not going to get very far fixing the symptoms or complaining about the effects.  Yes, this "car" goes 1 mile an hour tops and guzzles tons of gas.  Instead of complaining, you need to look under and behind all of it to find the true cause or causes.  A "true" cause is one that a true solution can be applied to.

Get to the bottom of all of these, and a new possibility emerges.  But you’re not going to get there from an hour or two of thinking, much less the ten minutes you’ll take reading this.  Talking to people, it takes a good 2-15 hours to reveal what’s hidden behind these statements.

-r


On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:48 PM, grarpamp <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Many here use libtech that blocks all the javascript garbage
on such sites making them inoperable. Any results will be
skewed, for that and other reasons, in various unknowable ways.

The Great Scam known as Democracy... its trick, lure, fraud,
and forever unfixable failure... abuses "voting" to wage immoral
force up to and including death against others.

Some of the truths democracy does not want you to know and liberate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wclLGlSWwYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbekNG6Azq4
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7342aa7b328abec8c5f54fc84907b90b3944c9f8&dn=The_Most_Dangerous_Superstition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy8S2xOKiwY

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