The Sunrise Movement has come to differing conclusions, and provides some references:
https://youtu.be/rJiiMz0CC5U Aryt On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 11:21 AM David Stodolsky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 8 Jan 2020, at 04:37, Rand Strauss <[email protected]> wrote: > > We don’t have a democracy. Humanity has never had a true representative > democracy of any large number of people. > > > It is wise to apply technically correct terms, when dealing with disputed > concepts. Until the formation of the USA, “democracy” meant “Athens” - a > form of governance in which people vote directly on the issues. My > “eDemocracy review” provides a summary: > > https://groups.io/g/yellowvests/wiki/eDemocracy-and-Athenian-democracy > > The current usage of “democracy” can be considered one of the greatest > propaganda victories in history. When Benjamin Franklin was asked the > result of the constitutional convention he said, “A republic, if you can > keep it.” This is a technically correct characterization. A governance > system in which people select others to decide issues is a republic. > > So, a "representative democracy” is a republican form of government. The > major conceptual challenge is defining operationally what is meant by > “representative.” Other terms, such as "accountability,” face the same > problem, with no theoretically rigorous answer in sight. The only solution > to this quandary is to empirically determine the degree to which > governmental decisions reflect the desires of the population. A recent > study suggest that citizens have no such influence in the USA: > > Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups > representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on > U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest > groups have little or no independent influence. > > > https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf > > > dss > > > > David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics > Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark > [email protected] Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070 > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major > commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you > moderated: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt. Unsubscribe, > change to digest mode, or change password by emailing > [email protected].
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