On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Stephen Smalley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 14:53 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> Quoting Stephen Smalley ([email protected]):
>> > On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 22:36 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 10:52 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 17:43 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote:
>> > > > > Hi Serge,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 14:52 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> > > > > > Just a little note to announce that the selinux testsuite is now
>> > > > > > up as a
>> > > > > > git tree at kernel.org. You can fetch it using
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/tests/selinux-testsuite
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Great. So, how far does it differ from that we have in LTP ?
>> > > > > http://ltp.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=ltp/ltp-dev.git;a=tree;f=testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite;h=066df4cdf2f8a80a0045e338b4bb2bf0f5d37091;hb=HEAD
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As you, Stephen and others in SELinux <[email protected]> were
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > main contributors to the SELinux test(s) in LTP, i guess the
>> > > > > next/future
>> > > > > development for SELinux tests will be happening in the new tree.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So, i would rather keep pulling to LTP from your tree. Now, could you
>> > > > > please let me know:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. Whether the new tree contains all scenarios which is present
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > LTP. In such a case a complete pruning of LTP SELinux tests
>> > > > > can
>> > > > > be done and replaced with your tree contents,
>> > > > > 2. If some of the LTP tests are not there, then i would like to
>> > > > > retain them in LTP side-by-side your tree contents,
>> > > >
>> > > > The new tree contains all of the selinux tests present in the LTP. You
>> > > > cannot however simply replace the ltp version of the tests with this
>> > > > tree, as this tree is a standalone testsuite and will not run within
>> > > > the
>> > > > ltp test harness. This testsuite is based on the original standalone
>> > > > selinux testsuite that was contributed by us to IBM to port to the LTP.
>> > > > We have internally maintained this testsuite in parallel to the ltp
>> > > > version as we have found it easier to set up, use, debug, and maintain.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Stephen. Since you have maintained the Original-One Internally
>> > > and have simultaneously contributed changes to the LTP-version of
>> > > SELinux, i am depending on you/Serge/SELinux-Mailing-List-members to
>> > > keep sending patches to LTP to update the LTP-version at regular
>> > > intervals (off-course at your convenience ;-))
>> >
>> > I think that will depend on whether there is some benefit to maintaining
>> > the ltp version. We might derive some benefit if the ltp selinux
>> > testsuite were better integrated (e.g. tests run by default if SELinux
>> > is enabled on the host) and if the tests got some regular attention from
>> > the ltp maintainers. Otherwise, it may be better to just remove the
>> > tests from the ltp and point people to the standalone version.
>>
>> I don't object to the tests being maintained in LTP. But so far, AFAICS,
>> the cost of maintaining in LTP far outweighs the benefits.
>>
>> So I'd like to know, does anyone (IBM?) *use* the version in LTP for
>> automated testing?
>>
>> If not, heck we could replace ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux/*
>> with a script that git clones the testsuite and runs it.
>>
>> Mind you it's not the selinux tests per se - it's the random bulk LTP
>> updates which then break selinux tests, or worse, the autoconf cruft
>> to try to detect whether the user wants selinux tests - which constitute
>> the real maintenance cost.
>>
>> If someone who uses the LTP selinux tests could step up and offer
>> to periodically run the tests and work with (me and) the community
>> to push fixes, I'll be happy to help out.
>
> (cc'd Jeff Burke as I know he has run the ltp selinux tests in the past
> on RHEL and has contributed patches in the past)
>
> Jeff - see above for context. Do you still run the ltp selinux tests on
> a regular basis? Are you interested in helping to maintain them and
> ideally to better integrate them into the LTP so that they will be run
> by default (if SELinux is enabled) and exercised by the regular ltp
> maintainers? Or are you just as happy to clone the separate standalone
> selinux testsuite and run that as part of QA, separate from ltp testing?
I'll do my best to assist as a resource too for you guys in the
integration effort.
Thanks,
-Garrett
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