I played with that a little bit but I spend so damn much time fixing
Microsoft messes that I can't play with this

I feel like Cinderella so busy fixing that evil step sisters stuff I don't
have time to make my dress (maybe the mice are doing it for me)

Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wouter DeBacker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:39 PM
> To: Egan, Matt B. (Artco)
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] k12os [was Re: hardware demands for Server whe
> n having 160 client computers?]
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Good thinking! I back that up. I am doing the same at my school.
> 
> Given that IceWM doesn't show a menu entry if the user hasn't
> got enough rights to the associated application,  I am
> _experimenting_ with a specific GID for every app I let them
> use, ie. LTopera for Opera, LTacro for Acrobat Reader, etc.
> 
> I then chown the app to its specific group and give no rights at
> all to members of other groups. When a user needs to be able to
> use an application I make him/her a member of the specific group
> and automagically (s)he gets to see the menu item.
> 
> The overall advantage of this twisted procedure is that I still
> have one centralized set of config files for IceWM, instead of
> slightly modified versions floating around the server's HD for
> each user with personal requests..
> 
> But please remember that all of this is still in an experimental
> pre-alpha stage. No warranty whatsoever ...   ;-)
> 
> Wouter
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 05 March 2002 23:38, you wrote:
> > Keep people away from xterm or any terminal type login (that's
> > how I do it)
> >
> > I give them nothing but icewm and it only has shortcuts to the
> > apps that they need to use if they need more they call me and
> > I give them more.
> >
> > I know that obscurity isn't security but it is a good start.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hans Ekbrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:21 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] k12os [was Re: hardware demands for
> > > Server when having 160 client computers?]
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:18:33PM -0500, Julius
> Szelagiewicz wrote:
> [wdb: snip...]
> > > Since I might go and offer LTSP to some schools around here,
> > > I find your information most valuable Julius. I had a glance
> > > at k12linux web site, but I did find it lacking in the
> > > security area. I remember that security problem often
> > > plagued the administrators at your high school, and many of
> > > us students used most of the time hacking/cracking in those
> > > labs (not me though).
> > >
> > > Limiting users cpu load is one problem. Another one is if
> > > one user do disk-access-intensive things like:
> > >
> > > grep -r foo /
> > >
> > > How do people on this list handle security problems like
> > > these with ltsp in, say high-schools?
> > >
> > > Hans Ekbrand

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