That is the same thing I've found

It has nothing to do with processor power its just finding a video card and
NIC that will work well with it

I've made the same call here for us

If it doesn't have PCI slots it is gone

Anyone else?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] usablility of 486 Was:Nothing happens after kernel
> boot
> 
> This post got me wonerding something again.  In all of your opinions,Is
> the
> performance/quality of a low-end 486 worth the trouble of getting it to
> work?
> 
> I tried a few when I was first installing ltsp and I wasnt satisfied with
> the video. It was also harder to get them to work. The availability of the
> cheap linksys pci adapter with a boot rom installed encouraged me to find
> more pci systems.  I decided not to use anything that didnt have pci slots
> as my cut off point. It cost me very little to replace the isa systems
> with
> slightly less older pci capable systems.
> 
> I do have quite a few of these ancient systems packed away now. Most of
> them
> only have 8 megs of ram an 1 meg isa video. My experience was that the
> cost
> of more ram and better vlb or isa video was almost as much as a new/used
> pci
> system.
> 
> Has anyone else had any better experience trying to use machines older
> than
> this, or have you had the same problems that I did?
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> > Micha,
> >
> > The problem is 4mb of ram is NOT enough.
> >
> > To get booted, the workstation needs to load the kernel
> > and the initrd image into ram.  It needs more than 4mb
> > to do that.
> >
> > It is possible to build a Linux kernel that doesn't need
> > the initrd.  you would have to pick your network card
> > driver and compile it in, rather than making it a module.
> >
> > There is some information on kernel building in the LTSP-3.0
> > documentation.
> >
> > Jim McQuillan
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, [iso-8859-2] Micha³ Fryska wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> I'v got a problem with my workstation, that "hangs up" after booting
> >> the kernel from server. It looks like it cannot start NFS, but it
> >> gives me no error messages. Neither on workstation, nor in system logs
> >> on server.
> >>
> >> The workstation is very "poor" ;-) cos it's 486SX/40MHz, 4MB Ram,
> >> 3C509 ISA, Trident 512Kb ISA, but i think it should work with Linux at
> >> all. The server (PIII 933, 128Kb - for now) runnig Mandrake 8.1.
> >>
> >> Everything goes well. It gets reply from dhcp, gets the kernel from
> >> tftp, starts loading...
> >>
> >> Whole messages look OK. This are only a few last ones:
> >>
> >> [....]
> >> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> >> Freeing initrd memory: 452k freed
> >> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> >> Freeing unused kernel memory: 68k freed
> >>
> >> It stops here and nothing happens.
> >>
> >> Here's my configuration:
> >> Server A   - running dhcpd
> >> Server B   - running the other nessesary services for LTSP.
> >>
> >> --- /etc/dhcpd.conf begin
> >>   ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
> >>   default-lease-time 21600;
> >>   max-lease-time 21600;
> >>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
> >>   option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
> >>   option routers 192.168.1.1;
> >>   option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
> >>   option domain-name "pewik";
> >>   option root-path "192.168.1.13:/home/ltsp/i386";
> >>   option option-128 code 128 = string;
> >>   option option-129 code 129 = text;
> >>
> >> shared-network WORKSTATIONS {
> >>
> >>         subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
> >>                 range 192.168.1.200 192.168.1.250;
> >>                 option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
> >>         }
> >>
> >>         subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
> >>                 range 192.168.2.200 192.168.2.250;
> >>                 option broadcast-address 192.168.2.255;
> >>         }
> >>
> >>         subnet 192.168.3.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
> >>                 range 192.168.3.200 192.168.3.250;
> >>                 option broadcast-address 192.168.3.255;
> >>         }
> >> }
> >>
> >> host 3com3300w {
> >> hardware ethernet  00:50:99:21:E8:98;
> >> fixed-address 192.168.1.8;
> >> }
> >>
> >> group {
> >>         use-host-decl-names     on;
> >>         option log-servers      192.168.1.13;
> >>         next-server             192.168.1.13;
> >>
> >>         host ws001 {
> >>                 hardware ethernet       00:20:af:05:63:a9;
> >>                 fixed-address           192.168.1.99;
> >>                 filename                "vmlinuz-2.4.9-ltsp-5";
> >>                 option option-128       e4:45:74:68:00:00;
> >>                 option option-129       "NIC=3c509";
> >>         }
> >> }
> >>
> >> --- /etc/dhcpd.conf end
> >>
> >> --- /etc/exports begin
> >> /home/ltsp/i386
> >> 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash)
> >> /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles
> >> 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash)
> >>
> >> --- /etc/exports end
> >>
> >> --- /etc/hosts begin
> >> 127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain localhost
> >> 192.168.1.13            elrond.pewik elrond
> >> 192.168.1.99            ws001.pewik ws001
> >>
> >> --- /etc/hosts end
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Szum.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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