to send entire output of error to file...

        start_ws > /tmp/xout 2>&1
now look at what you've got..
        cat /tmp/xout | more
this should tell you something about the error.

Another avenue is to make your own XConfig in /etc using
minimal 8 bit color depth and modelines from examples off the internet
just go to google and type in XF86Config modeline 50-86 or whatever the
Horizontal or vertical numbers are for your monitor, just something close
to get you on the right track.

Oh, and make sure (I assume you are using X v3 on the terminals?) that you
have the right X server setting (e.g. S3, SVGA, (Xfree86 for v4))

One more thing, There is a problem with ltsp (No I haven't notified anybody
yet)
in that they do not give an option for "ramdac" in the lts.conf setup. this
is 
critical for some v3 servers like S3 with a #9gxe board, they will simply
not
work because the server doesn't know how to set the dot clock w/o it.
I have added this into my setup so if you find that you use this option in
your
hand made xconfig then let me know and I will send you the info if you need
it.

Keep digging, you'll find it.

Doug Breshears
BMCC/EOCI Computer Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Problems with X (are you surprised)`


I've been playing with LTSP on and off for a couple of months now and I
can't get
past the workstation X startup - it keeps giving me "no screens" errors

I'm using RedHat 7.2 for the server which is running XFree 4.x.x

I've upgraded to the 3.0.3 LTSP and still have no luck

I've tried a bunch of things and I've noticed that if there is an XFConfig
in the
mounted /etc/ directory that XFree (from the start_ws script) will try to
use that
even if it's told that it should use something else

Can I change the mount to a rw instead of ro and use XFree86 -configure from
a
runlevel 3 bash shell to let XFree tell me what it wants?  Do I just change
the
server /etc/exports to get the mount rw or is there somewhere else I should
also
change?

On a second machine I'm having initrd problems.  Is there anything special I
should
be doing with a box with 20 Mb RAM?  I thought that would be enough.
--
Brian Johnson, P. Eng
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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