> > > It's a zoo. And Linux is the only way outta that zoo. Stop the > > > madness. > > > > Yes. I think that is the point of switching :). > > It's so bad (and I'm so burnt out on it) that people still ask me to > come help them on their legacy systems. I tell them my price rates, and > they leave me alone: > > "Fortune 500" companies: $500/hour > Other companies: $400/hour > Friends: $50/hour, no excuses. >
Someone of like mind, I agree legacy Operating Systems and "can you make me a Cray out of this 8088 warrant an increase in hourly rate. > Of course, anyone wanting to install Linux, gets it all for free. I > like installing stuff that doesn't evaporate into a puff of logic when I > step out the door. And what burns me the most is that many/most of the > problems are those that support follow-on work. No one buys just the OS > anymore- it's McAffee/Norton, then later CleanSweep, then one day they nuke > the thing and start over. But this install I'm on here started with RH > 6.2, now I'm on 7.3, and I see no reason to ever go back to the lesser > species...it's just such a joke. > > Sorry. As I age, the rants just come at me like turrettes. > > > We have a budget of $25,000 for the hardware to make the switch. I will > > buy software where I find it necessary, but for the most part, we want > > open-source stuff. > > Well, if you're gonna use CAD (whichever you select) I'd suggest > standalone machines...really. There's just so much network bandwidth that > you can deal with, and then things slow down. And once you turn a bridge > section from isometric and not only is it not smooth, but it inspires a run > to the coffee machine, you'll see why I suggest that. Just trying to be > helpful; for any other application short of 3D stuff, I'd be pushing LTSP > with both hands- it's great. But things like screensavers will eat your > lunch. In our cad department we are building a terminal server per workgroup to reduce administration and equipment costs. each terminal being a celeron 333 with 256 mb and a decent video card, using copper gigabit nics. Going with the gigabit we are still money ahead using LTSP rather than building a bunch of high powered workstations that only have thier render button pressed a couple times a day. The drafters are also learning to watch osview to determine the best time to render, after determining the system load from all the other useres. Anoter tip is we have the users come in to work and log on and off at 1 minuit intervals. Our terminal server is a dual Athlon with scsi, and lots of ddr sdram. Our tests so far seem to be good for our 50 terminals. Not to mention the possiability of the use of mosix here. For the cost of a decent IDE drive you can get into the world of copper gigabit, then the bandwidth limit, you are being cautiond of begins to evaporate quickly. > > > I am personally a silver member of the Mandrake Club. When we switch, > > the company will be a corporate member. I fill bug reports on the > > software I use on my Linux workstation. I will document the process of > > switching to Linux on our website. It receives 50,000 visitors a month. > > I will hopefully convince a few to try it. thanks for your participation ;-) > > Yeah, I can't really kick Mandrake much, I've switched back and forth > several times, but I keep coming back to Redhat. Even though there are > less, cool-features be default, I like the admin tools better. And, when > something comes out for Mandrake, you can still load it on Redhat, anyway. > I love what they do with the desktop. > > > If and when I find a solution to my CAD problem, I will write about it > > too. I am very grateful to the Linux community and this listserv. > > Well, this is both the way it should be, and the way it'll always be > from here on out: communal 'fireside chats' with millions of people, each > bringing something to the table for assesment. No salesmen trying to > change your mind so as to bump the commission, just friends sharing their > experience for the sake of 'keeping the tribe safe'. Ain't it the best? > -- "The place of the material world in the universe is that of an exquisitely beautiful precipitate or varied cloud-work in the universal �ther, determined by a geometrical necessity...." ~ Professor John G. Macvicar1870 ~ Brent Hasty _______________________________________________________________ Hundreds of nodes, one monster rendering program. Now that's a super model! Visit http://clustering.foundries.sf.net/ _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.openprojects.net
