Venkat,

You may choose to see it that way, but the owner of a
company who is paying for the equipment, the IT staff, the
office space, the office furniture, and for the employees
to sit there and to do actual work, may choose to see it
differently.  What matters is whose point of view is
legally supported.  IANAL, and maybe I'm being cynical, but
it seems to me that your employer should have every right
to observe anything you are doing on the company systems.
 It can't be an invasion of personal privacy because you
shouldn't be doing anything personal to begin with!

I agree that it rubs me the wrong way, and it goes against
notions of privacy and freedom and democratic society, but
the workplace is not a democratic forum.  You sign away a
lot of rights when you take a job, especially at a big firm
with a large, play-it-safe legal staff.

Of course, everyone does something personal while at work.
 When you make a free local call home (in the U.S. at
least) on your lunch break, you don't expect the lines to
be tapped and your call to be recorded!  Someone might
argue that there is an expectation of privacy with certain
computer activities as well...  It's a slippery slope.

I wouldn't want to work at that company either, but the
truth is that such capability doesn't have to be built
explicity into open source software.  I'll repeat part 2 of
my reply to Charles:

"The patches that add the -stealth option to x0rfbserver
effectively make exactly what Charles' boss is asking for
possible (and it only took John Cuzzola one rainy Saturday
to add those).  With no intervention on the part of the
user, their session can be remotely observed without
interfering with the keyboard and mouse.  Even if you'd
setup encrypted email so that no one in between could
decypher it, the boss could just sit back and watch you
type it!  x0rfbserver is also distributed with a program
called rfbcat, which allows you to save x0rfbserver output
to a file, thus preserving the data!"

The intention of the -stealth option is to relieve the user
of having to do anything when he/she needs help.  The
administrator can just jump in.  This is not a requirement,
but a feature that many people will find useful.  Many
well-intended features can be used against their
beneficiaries.

Jason


> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:05:14 -0400
> From: Venkat Manakkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server
semi-sol'n
> 
> Charles Marcus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>> As distasteful as it sounds, my boss has asked me about
the possibility of
>> what I'll call 'Passive Shadowing', ie, shadowing
someones workstation without
>> the ability to take it over, and *without them knowing
it*, so he can see what
>> they are doing.
>>
>> The reason for this is, we have a big problem with
people spending lots of
>> time 'playing' on the internet when they should be
working, and the boss would
>> like to be able to look in on them from time to time.
> 
> I see this as unethical and a violation of an individuals
privacy and
> dignity. I would never work for a company that had such
equipment. I
> do hope that such covert features never make it to
mainstream open
> source code.

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