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There are other issues in the works here, too.  You can get away with
running LTSP (via NFS obviously) on a 386 with only 8MB of RAM.  There's
almost no way to get X into a 2MB compressed ramdisk.  This is necessary
because when all is said and done, the Linux kernel is downloaded into
RAM (about 1 - 2 MB), then the initial ramdisk is downloaded which is
somewhere around 2MB.  The ramdisk contents in memory are then copied
into a ramdisk proper and the ramdisk contents freed.  This requires a
total of 6MB to work properly.  When I tried to work with a 3MB initial
ramdisk image on the above machine, it failed to boot as it was copying
the ramdisk contents from memory into the ramdisk device (which is also
in memory, obviously).  This of course poses a problem that cannot be
solved without installing more memory.  And this was using NFS for
portions of the root filesystem.  If you have the memory (i.e., 64MB or
more), you can easily come up with a fully functional initial ramdisk
image to run the workstation from with all the nice functionality you
want.  If you use a compressed RAM filesystem, you can get away with
having around 60-64MB of file storage in your filesystem that runs the
workstation in memory depending on the compression ratio you achieve.  I
usually get around 2:1 compression, but generally a little less.  This
allows for you to successfully have a filesystem that is slightly less
than the entire size of the amount of RAM you have in the system
(assuming you want to share the RAM evenly).  If you determine that you
need less RAM to run the apps the workstation will be using (say 16MB),
then of course you can increase the amount of files and storage your
initial ramdisk uses (i.e., 48MB) which gives you an effective
filesystem size of 48MB * 2 = 96MB <--- !!! greater than the physical
size of memory you have installed.  Pretty neat!  16MB should be plenty
to run X windows with a remotely displayed VNC desktop.  You might be
able to get away with a remote XDMCP session running a lightweight
window manager and very (and I mean very) few windows/applications open.
 Unless you were to implement swap space, your XDMCP session will crash
a lot on you unexpectedly, simply because the workstation will run out
of memory that X needs to cache things and the kernel will kill of
processes to free resources and X is usually the one that gets it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Antonio R. Barbado Portillo wrote:
>
>> In Netstation project , thin clients boot about RAMDISK INITRD only.
>> Why LTSP do not  take this feature??? A real thin client not need a FS
>> and not run local app. This feature is better or no? Its more effective.
>
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, LTSP does use initrd, which most certainly does
> contain a file system. Clients do need to run at least one app locally
> (after all the boot-up scripts in initrd), either telnet or an X server.
> Since the executables are in files, a file system is required. Since all
> the files involved total to a sizable amount, they are not stored on a
> diskless client. Instead, they are stored on a server, so the Network
> File System is used to access them.
>
> I'm sure something other than NFS could be used, but whatever it was
> would have to solve the same problem of providing a file system over a
> network.
>

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