On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:29:35 +0800 (WST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Brian
> 
> I utterly conceed your opinion to you <smile>, but I totally dis-agree.
> I've installed LTSP on literly 100's servers from old-isa to latest MBs.
> It has never been so easy as it is now. I use PXEstuff to boot all PXE
> and the bootrom to boot all others. 
> No kernels to fuss, no X to fuss (why are you using X-3.6 ?), just smooth
> plain sailing, and with 4.x being OS independant it looks as if it would be
> even easier (without lib fusses).

    Well see- this is what I call the Sendmail phenomenon.  Sendmail's been around for 
decades.  It's a bitch.  The original sendmail configurators (the people) were gods, 
and nothing else on the planet could be more flexible or more difficult for a newbie 
to set up.  But once you've successfully installed it enough times, it becomes easy- 
you know what to look for, as well as how it works.

    You've gotten onto a method that works for you; I've never even touched PXE. Much 
of the hardware I've got to choose from are so dissimilar that manual configuration is 
always required...but that's after the initial 'boot' phase.

> So I would very much like to see how your install is failing.

    Sorry, I've now removed all traces of LTSP from the server box; the Jammin-125 is 
sitting here with me wondering what I'll do with it.  I'll probably find a way to 
reuse it somehow.
 
> I think that logging in to the client and running start_ws and watching the
> result logs is very easy to do.

    Yeah, I first hoped for the best, but then had'em start up under runlevel 3, and 
did a LOT of that.  I spent hours experimenting...and wondering how much of that time 
the customer would be willing to pay for, and how much I'd do for free.
    
    It's just too involved, sorry.

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Evansville, IN                    My Voyage: http://www.CounterMoon.com
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