Hi > > > > > * IDE drives die around 10 concurrent users. Fast SCSI or FC drives are > > > > > manditory for a large number of concurrent users. The faster the better. > > > > Can anyone else comment on the disk requirements ? > > > > What, exactly, is so great about SCSI ? > > > > I /really/ don't want to have to go the SCSI route. > > > trust us, the "grownups" - you very, very much *want* to go the > > > SCSI route. There are reasons for higher prices - the disk electronics are > > > way more advanced, the request queueing really works, the wide data path > > > allows for *sustained* high throughput, the otpitmized head movement > > > traslates into faster reads and writes and into longer hardware life. And, > > > no, serial ata is *not* as good as scsi. > > <smiles> > > > trust us, the "grownups" - you very, very much *want* to go the > > > > Please give info. please: > > I tested a compaq proliant with UW SCSI, 10 lts workstations > > against a ATA100 IDE. > > hdparm -t -T /dev/hda <sda> gives a slight edge to the IDE. > > For most part the two machines felt the same. > > > > I missed the opportunity to use the SCSI during a disk-disk backup > > where the IDE was noticible (making the system sluggish). > > > > SCSI is a lot more cost-and-hassle than IDE, I'll do it if there is a clear > > benefit vs hearsay, but it's hard to find someone to say > > > > I used to use IDE and when I changed to SCSI these marvelous things happened > > rather than > > I've made up my mind about SCSI, please don't try to confuse me with facts > > so please ... > > James > No! it seems you've made up your mind. Why would you ask us a question, if > you don't think we actually have the experience to answer it. We've been > about scsi a few times already in the last year. obviously you have missed > the discussion. google on it, go to adaptec site, don't trust them because > they are also "grownups". > you say you "tried" ide with 10 workstations - well, try harder: > get 2 systems with 20 workstations each and run them under real load. this > is the way to do it if you can't be bothered with reading the specs and > performing calculations. julius
In english, and excluding rhetorical questions, the reason for asking a question, is to seek an answer. Thanks for those who gave valuable answers, and in particular the URL to seagate on ATA vs SCSI Their summary is SCSI disks are better for random access applications for multiple disk environments ATA optimised for linear access speed and the MAJOR difference between SCSI and modern ATA is marketing and target markets. (or one interface is pretty much as good as the other!! which satisfies the technical yearing to understand how one could be better than the other) James James RR > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:34:22 +0200 > From: Erik Thiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Thiele-Hydraulik > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] resolver error 0 > > hi. > > on my ltsp machine: > > cat /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 192.168.30.8 server > > cat /etc/host.conf > order=hosts,bind > multi on > > ping foobar > ping: server: Resolver Error 0 (no error) > > telnet foobar > telnet: server: Resolver Error 0 (no error) > > ?? i don't understand. anyone has any clues? > > cu & thx > erik > > -- > Erik Thiele > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: "MRS, JOY SANTOS." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:15:21 +0100 > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] VERY URGENT BUSINESS INVESTMENT!!!! > > Dear Sir > > > > I am a widow from Angola=2EI am currently residing in Nigeria > > with my family as refegue=2EThis is as a result of the civil war in my country > > which resulted to the death of my husband and my first daughter=2E > > You were introduced to me by a very close foreign associate who > > assured me of your readiness to assist my family in my investment > > venture=2E She gave me your particulars and asked me to contact you > > immediately=2E The issue is that i am a widow with children who inherited > > a legal WILL to the value of $27=2E7 Million from my late husband=2E > > I wish to invest this sum in your company or any other profitable > > business to be guided by you=2EYou are the last hope of this family > > in this business venture as was suggested by my friend=2E My main > > motive of contacting you was because of the political stability > > and security to life and property in your country=2E I will appreciate > > company with stability and growth potentials=2C also with minimal > > tax deductions for foreign investors=2E I will be very willing to s > > end to you my family profiles as soon as i receive your acceptance > > mail=2E You should please send to me your company and personal profiles=2C > > including some investment hints in your country=2E Thanks for your > > prompt reply and you should please send your reply to my Email address > > above=2EFor prompt discussion your telephone=2Ffax numbers is needed as > well=2E > > > > MRS=2E JOY SANTOS=2E > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:47:53 +0200 > From: "Svein Erik Kro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ghostscript Driver Choice for Misc. > Printers > > Hi! > > http://www.linuxprinting.org/ should have all you need :) > > > Svein Erik > > > >>> Reed Loefgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/22/03 22:19 PM >>> > Hi all, > > We're getting ready to deploy a new ltsp server that will have about a > dozen printers on its network. There's everything from Canon BJ-100 > inkjets to color inkjets to HP LJ-4s. Is there anyplace on the web that > might have a list of "proper" ghostscript drivers for a given printer? > I'd hate to have to try a ton of drivers to find the best driver for a > given ancient printer. > > Thanks, > > rl > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines > at the same time. Free trial click > here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:27:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Erik Thiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] resolver error 0 > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Erik Thiele wrote: > > > hi. > > > > on my ltsp machine: > > > > cat /etc/hosts > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 192.168.30.8 server > > > > cat /etc/host.conf > > order=hosts,bind > > multi on > > > > ping foobar > > ping: server: Resolver Error 0 (no error) > > > > telnet foobar > > telnet: server: Resolver Error 0 (no error) > > > > ?? i don't understand. anyone has any clues? > > > The resolver libraries are in the local_apps package. Try > installing that, and you should be fine. > > Jim McQuillan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > cu & thx > > erik > > > > > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: Iuri Fiedoruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Tivejo > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:28:42 -0300 > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] version 4 advantages > > What are the advantages of ltsp version 4 over version 3? > > I have version 3 running fine here, but if version 4 brings things as > workstation floppy access, easier workstation hardware setup, etc, I will > give it a try. > -- > Iuri Fiedoruk, Equipe Site Tivejo! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:09:15 +0530 > From: Varun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Cirus Logic display card > > Hello Guys, > I need help for configuring my dispay card. > My server is A7n266 VM / athlon 1700+ / 128MB DDR ram / > agp card is RIVA TNT2 32MB . Resolution 800 x 600 on an IBM > color monitor. > > One of the client is a P75 , monochrome VGA monitor, Cirus Logic GD5446 > PCI display card. > The client is not able to start the xserver. It works at runlevel 3. > What changes shall I make in the lts.conf file? > How do you handle a monochrome VGA monitor? > > Thanks in advance > > Varun > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:36:43 +0200 > From: "Svein Erik Kro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cirus Logic display card > > Hi! > > If you're running an old version of XFree86, the cirus Logic > driver/module have a bug. You should update XFree86 to 4.3.x i think.. > > I got the same problem on 3 old compaq boxes myself.. > > I got some pc's with s3 cards, some of them are buggy with s3 driver, > but when i use the vesa driver, it works fine.. You can try xserver = > vesa in lts.conf, it didn't work for me tho.. > > > Svein Erik > > > >>> Varun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/23/03 18:39 PM >>> > Hello Guys, > I need help for configuring my dispay card. > My server is A7n266 VM / athlon 1700+ / 128MB DDR ram / > agp card is RIVA TNT2 32MB . Resolution 800 x 600 on an IBM > color monitor. > > One of the client is a P75 , monochrome VGA monitor, Cirus Logic GD5446 > PCI display card. > The client is not able to start the xserver. It works at runlevel 3. > What changes shall I make in the lts.conf file? > How do you handle a monochrome VGA monitor? > > Thanks in advance > > Varun > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines > at the same time. 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To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Speed trouble with switch > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:43:47 -300 > > ok but in the floppy disk driver > exist a flash software ,may be can > write the eprom 27c128 or 27c256 > > the card have the slot for the chip > > thanks for the help > > > --------------------------------------------- > >In other hand I just by too a via6105 chip based network card > >and it have a 93LC46 chip (memory) mounted under the > >rom slot. > > > >May be I can use this chip us a rom ? > >Can I flash these memory with the boot program ? > > No, that is a serial EEPROM, only big enough to hold the MAC address of > the NIC and a few other parameters. And it's not connected in a way that > it can be used for booting anyway. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines > at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > . > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:09:17 +0530 > From: Sawan Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Windows with Diskless and Load Balancing > > > Hello, > > I have used LTSP in my college labs and is working fine. > Now I have a question that now we also wish to provide Windows 98/XP to > the diskless clients. How is that possible with LTSP. > > I want it to be in such a way that the diskless client boots then LILO > or GRUB appears and the user gets a choice to boot with Windows or > Linux. > > > Also currently we have ten diskless clients with a single server. We > wish to increase the number of clients. Then the traffic on server will > increase. I wish to know the available techniques to balance the server > load using Clustering or any other better method. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Regards, > > Sawan Gupta > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: Edward Grace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Imperial College London > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:15:20 +0000 > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] nforce2 - nvnet - network booting. > > Dear all, > > I have had the most horrific difficulties trying to get an nforce2 mother= > board=20 > with built in LAN to network boot. While I have the PXE bootloader worki= > ng=20 > fine, I am having a nightmare trying to get the root directory mounted ov= > er=20 > NFS. > > I have compiled the kernel appropriately (2.4.20, and have tried both sto= > ck=20 > kernel and RedHat varient), it loads up pulls in the ramdisk then (natura= > lly)=20 > falls over... > > What I want to try and do is to get the network card up and running using= > the=20 > ramdisk, then see if I can pivot_root. I have successfully tested the dr= > iver=20 > (nvnet.o) which I compiled for this kernel. =20 > > Since this projects main call seems to be network booting, could any of y= > ou=20 > offer me some advice as to how to proceed. I assume you have seen every=20 > possible way of getting something to boot over the network. > > I'd really appriciate the help, this is starting to drive me mad, > > -ed > --=20 > Edward Grace > Photonics Group, Physics Department > Blackett Laboratory > Imperial College > SW7 2BW > t: 020 759 47721 > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --__--__-- > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > > > End of Ltsp-discuss Digest > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. 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