Mandag 23 maj 2005 07:52 skrev Verner Kj�rsgaard: Hi list and Jim,
- the short story: "Yup" - the long story: "Yes, all is well. The boxes boot using the new RTL8139 cards - and they stay there :-) thanks to the advice given by Jim and the WIKI. So now, we've got an even happier bunch of kids and teachers using a pile of new (1997) machines. Actually we've taken out the harddiscs and silenced all fans, as they are not needed on PIIs running w/o harddisks and all. Thank you again for all help! Best regards, Verner > S�ndag 22 maj 2005 23:18 skrev Jim McQuillan: > > - again, thank you for all help. Now, off to school (:-)) to try it all > out. - I will report back. > > Best regards, > Verner > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, Verner [iso-8859-1] Kj�rsgaard wrote: > > > S�ndag 22 maj 2005 19:02 skrev Jim McQuillan: > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > - thank you for your answer, but... > > > > > > I know that an RTL8139 card would be using the module 8139too, just as > > > you wrote earlier. But, what if the netcard inserted is a > > > "GysmoPhyte400XsuperDuperNetBooster" (:-)) - and it works perfectly > > > fine. How do I figure out what module name then to pass to the kernel > > > at boot time? > > > > In that case, boot Knoppix or DamnSmallLinux and run 'lsmod' looking for > > something that looks like a nic driver module. Take a look in > > /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.4.26-ltsp-3/kernel/drivers/net for all of > > the nic modules included with LTSP. In some cases, it's pretty obvious > > (like 3c509.o). Other times, it's not so easy, but you'll just need to > > find what matches with the output of lsmod. > > > > Jim. > > > > > Best regards, > > > Verner > > > > > > (see www.bfis.dk) > > > > > > > Verner, > > > > > > > > Either Knoppix or DamnSmallLinux should work fine for figuring out > > > > which nic modules to use. if you are using rtl8139, just use > > > > 'NIC=8139too', like I showed in the example earlier. > > > > > > > > Jim McQuillan > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, Verner [iso-8859-1] Kj�rsgaard wrote: > > > > > L�rdag 21 maj 2005 16:07 skrev Verner Kj�rsgaard: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi list and Jim, > > > > > > > > > > - please foregive me for asking this question; revealing a > > > > > bottomless sea of "not knowing the obvious" on my behalf... > > > > > > > > > > - tomorrow, monday, we'll try two things; first we'll try to get > > > > > the TULIPs going with etherboot images created using version 5.0.11 > > > > > of etherboot as suggested by "chuck" on this list. If this doesn't > > > > > work, then we'll put in RTL8139 netcards - or whichever we can > > > > > muster - and get them running. > > > > > > > > > > - this is where my question comes in, how do I detect what > > > > > modulename to actually use? I read the WIKI regarding passing > > > > > options to the kernel. That'll be ok. But I don't think I know how > > > > > to find out exactly what module name to pass to the kernel. > > > > > Hitherto we've used Knoppix or DSL to boot the machines, then query > > > > > them using "lspci -n " looking for device of class 200. > > > > > > > > > > - Should I fire up DamnSmallLinus/Knoppix or something and use > > > > > tools like > > > > > > > > > > "lsmod" > > > > > > > > > > to try to detect what is used?? > > > > > > > > > > Again, anyones time and effort helping me out is much appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Verner Kjaersgaard > > > > > > > > > > > L�rdag 21 maj 2005 15:46 skrev Jim McQuillan: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > - I think you just gave us 12 more LTSP workstations with this > > > > > > advice > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) - Yes, of course, that's what to do. Thank you very much - to > > > > > > : all! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Verner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verner, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kernel starts running, it will probe for the network > > > > > > > card. It can even find cards that are disabled in the bios. > > > > > > > (The magic of Linux ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need to do is tell the kernel which NIC you want to > > > > > > > use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do that by passing a kernel command line, such as: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NIC=8139too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To put that on the kernel command line, you need to add an > > > > > > > option-128 and option-129 to your dhcpd.conf file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find info on kernel commandline args here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/KernelOptions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you set that for your client, and restart dhcpd, you > > > > > > > should be fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim McQuillan > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2005, Verner [utf-8] Kj�rsgaard wrote: > > > > > > > > L�rdag 21 maj 2005 14:27 skrev Sudev Barar: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 12:22 +0200, Verner Kj�rsgaard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > L�rdag 21 maj 2005 11:10 skrev Sudev Barar: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 10:31 +0200, Verner Kj�rsgaard > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So we're disabling the internal netcard in the bios. > > > > > > > > > > > > We plug in an external netcard (RTL8139 plain > > > > > > > > > > > > vanilla) and fixes a floppy for that one. Boots like > > > > > > > > > > > > a breeze. Ahem, until it goes into some DHCP error > > > > > > > > > > > > "number 67". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [SNIP] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - indeed, we did DISABLE the internal card. That's what > > > > > > > > > > we don't understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A quick google shows error 67 likely if two machines are > > > > > > > > > given the same address. Hopefully you have edited the > > > > > > > > > dhcpd.conf file post installation of new card in the > > > > > > > > > client. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scratching my head really ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sudev, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - thanks and Ooooooooops, you're right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - we had two adresses the same. We found it and corrected it, > > > > > > > > - and THEN the behaviour was as described. The TULIP box > > > > > > > > starts on the external card, then will go on on the internal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards > > > > > > > > Verner Kj�rsgaard > > > > > > > > Open Source Academy > > > > > > > > Denmark > > > > > > > > +45 56964223 > > > > > > > > +45 2014 5551 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > > > > > > > > Want to be the first software developer in space? > > > > > > > > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > > > > > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12&alloc_id344&op=click > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >__ ____ __ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. 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