> > Hi Jim, > > What a pity. I'll ask the question on the OpenSuSE list. It seems to me that > the LTSP project is just SO important. It's in class with SAMBA, Apache and > OO. It's so because it widens the usebility of Linux in general, it makes > GNU/Linux do things that Windows can't do, at least not out of the box. > > To schools and other institutions, even corporations, it's a money saver in > all aspects. It's clean, easy and beautiful.
Originally, the Suse guys were expecting that integrating LTSP would just be a matter of taking our packages and running ./configure && make && make test && make install. Once we pointed out they couldn't just take our packages and build a complete system, they wanted documentation describing how to do the integration. Unfortunately, while we agree that LTSP should be considered a service like Apache and Samba, there's a huge difference between those projects and LTSP. Those projects sit on top of a distro. LTSP needs deep integration with the distro. For LTSP-5 to work on Suse, it needs to use much of the infrastructure of Suse as its core. This turns out to be a HUGE amount of work to get it integrated. So far, the only distro that's shown real interest is Ubuntu. In their case, we got buy-in from the entire distro team. Those guys know that LTSP isn't just a service sitting on top and they have thrown the necessary resources at making it happen. We've always said that we're willing to help distros integrate LTSP into their product. But, like I've said before, this requires a huge effort on their part. If Suse (or anyone) is really interested in doing this, they need to show up at the table ready to do some serious work. We don't have a clear path of how each distro can do this. We do ALL of our development on the #ltsp IRC channel. All discussions about how we do things take place there. There's been an amazing amount of work done between the Ubuntu, Debian and LTSP developers to make this all work. It really does require actual distro team people from each distro to help make this happen. Getting ANY package included in a distro is much harder than it used to be, and when a package requires twisting and molding of things like init scripts, initramfs images, kernels, session scripts and other things, it's just not going to ever get included in a particular distro unless that distro's guys are deeply involved. Jim. > > Sigh. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
