Well, that would disable local device support, wouldn't it? Or is there any way to realize an nx connection with local dev and sound?
2009/8/12 Frank Bergmann <[email protected]>: > Java should work quicker via NX-Connection. > So you could install the freenx Server on your sever and a fat client > that boots a small desktop und autostarts the nomachine client. > Maybe you should test this first: Boot a client from cd, install > nomachine client and see how it goes. > Frank > > 2009/8/12 Peter Stein <[email protected]> >> >> Compiz is disabled. LDM_DIRECTX didn't help. Video drivers are ok, I >> use the free radeon drivers, they are well tested. >> How should I install such software as Maple, Mathematica locally ... >> This software needs some kind of computer power. The programs are >> huge. That's why we have our workstations and not a thin client. >> Unfortunately this doesn't look like a good plan. So what is left? >> >> 2009/8/11 Gideon Romm <[email protected]>: >> > Peter, >> > >> > You have several options available: >> > >> > 1. LDM_DIRECTX (set to True in lts.conf, video will not be tunneled >> > through ssh and go back to the client directly) >> > >> > 2. LOCAL_APPS - install java and java programs in the chroot and run >> > them as local apps rather than from the server - do the same with ff and >> > plugins >> > >> > 3. See if you have the optimal video drivers for the thin client >> > >> > 4. Disable compiz if it is running on the server >> > >> > These are off the top of my head. >> > >> > -Gadi >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:34 +0200, Peter Stein wrote: >> >> Dear LTSP users, >> >> >> >> when it comes to convince somebody of LTSP the usability and feeling >> >> is crucial. After setting the chroot up we started testing. And here >> >> the real problems begin. Our users are scientists, they work for hours >> >> in front of their monitor and they are *sorry* pissed if the computer >> >> is somewhat sluggish or unusable. >> >> We have enormous problems using Java programs like xmaple and others. >> >> Some are usable, some not. I am aware of the bug here >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/277069 and >> >> installed the libxcb package of Ubuntu karmic which improved the speed >> >> a lot. But still it sucks to work with thin clients somehow. >> >> >> >> - moving windows is sometimes decelerated >> >> - firefox dropdown menus still open slowly sometimes (not in konqueror) >> >> - input in some java programs like xmaple lags - the program is not usable >> >> - videos are not shown with enough fps >> >> >> >> I have analyzed the traffic a little bit. If you move a window like >> >> gnome-terminal traffic jumps to 5-6 MB/s sometimes. CPU of xorg goes >> >> up to 45%, ssh uses 20%. If one uses xmaple or other Java programs >> >> load goes up to 1.15 which is too much for a single core terminal, >> >> traffic jumps to 14-15 MB. This is more than maximum for a 100 MBit/s >> >> connection, which is still kind of standard (but tested with GBit/s). >> >> >> >> We use: >> >> Ubuntu Jaunty for servers and chroot >> >> terminals have sempron 2100+ (that's not really slow for a terminal) >> >> ATI X1200 with free radeon driver >> >> the server I used for testing has more than enough power: 8 cores and >> >> 16GB RAM >> >> >> >> I also tried hpn-ssh http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ >> >> with no sufficient result. >> >> So the problem is: >> >> >> >> In many cases (like moving a window etc.) xorg and ssh use too much >> >> cpu. We changed ssh encryption to blowfish which helped only a little. >> >> What can I do to improve this situation. I ran out of ideas. One >> >> important program which doesn't work, is enough to make this project >> >> rubbish. All my work was for nothing and that would be very >> >> disappointing. >> >> >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> >> 30-Day >> >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> >> focus on >> >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss >> >> For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net >> > -- >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer >> > [email protected] >> > >> > Support LTSP! 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