On 2017-02-25 08:49, richard kweskin wrote:
>> FROM: richard kweskin <rkwesk_l...@hellug.gr>
>>  SENT: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:03 AM
>>  TO: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
>>  CC: Donaldson Jeff
>>  SUBJECT: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Fat Client Graphics Distortion
>>
>> On 2017-02-23 21:41, Donaldson Jeff wrote:
>>  > Greetings,
>>  >
>>  > I'm running an Edubuntu 12.04 LTSP server and I am having an 
>> issue
>>  > with my Fat Client image where drop down and dialog boxes appear
>> with
>>  > distorted graphics. These work just fine on the thin client side
>> so
>> I
>>  > imagine it is a video driver problem in the chroot. The machines
>> are
>>  > using an Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller.
>> I've
>>  > tried installing the ppa:glasen/intel-driver repository and
>> updating
>>  > the drivers, but that has no effect. I'm at a loss as to how to
>> get
>>  > these to appear correctly. Any help or insight is appreciated.
>>  >
>>  > P.S. If it's not too much trouble, kindly reply to me as well as
>> the
>>  > list to ensure I don't miss any replies due to my email rules.
>>  > Thanks!
>>  >
>>  > Regards,
>>  > Jeff
>>
>>  Jeff
>>
>>  I have no experience with the Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated
>>  Graphics Controller so I googled it. Intel regards this as legacy
>>  hardware so adding a ppa seems pointless.
>>
>>  One important place to check is to see what kernel video driver is
>> in
>>
>>  play.
>>
>>  You report that when this client runs as a thin client all is well.
>>  Compare which video driver is in use both when in thin client mode
>> and
>>  in fat client mode. If you want to see the kernel video driver use
>> the
>>  command lspci -knn | grep -A2 VGA in a terminal. Take care, 
>> however,
>>  that while in fat client mode the command will apply to the 
>> client's
>>  hardware as stated above, but when in thin client this same
>> procedure
>>
>>  reports the server's kernel video driver!
>>
>>  If you also have the Epoptes application on your server open it and
>>  right click on the thin client's icon and choose run -> open local
>> admin
>>  terminal. Then the above command will apply to the client and not
>> the
>>
>>  server.
>>
>>  If you do not have Epoptes (but you really should add it!) see
>>
>>  http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#xterm_localapp [1]
>>
>>  Troubleshooting - LTSPedia [2]
>>  wiki.ltsp.org
>>  This page is a stub, there should be some more information to
>> provide
>> a balanced overview of the topic. Help us make it complete.
>>
>>  in order to then use the above command to see the thin client's
>> kernel
>>  video driver.
>>
>>  Please report back to the list what the above command shows in both
>>  modes when using the stock video driver and not the ppa one.
>>
>>  Richard
>> FROM: Donaldson Jeff
>>  SENT: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:02 PM
>>  TO: richard kweskin; ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
>>  SUBJECT: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Fat Client Graphics Distortion
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> Thank you for the reply. When I run that command from the local
>> console of a thin client, I get the following output:
>>
>> VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
>> Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e12] (rev 03)
>>
>> Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0420]
>>
>> Kernel driver in use: i915
>>
>> If I run the same command from the console of a fat client, I get 
>> the
>> same results. So if they are using the same kernel video driver on
>> the
>> exact same hardware, why is one behaving differently than the other?
>> Could it be a X issue? Also, if it helps...I've launched firefox 
>> from
>> a terminal window to see if I encounter errors when accessing the
>> drop
>> downsdialog boxes and nothing appears in terminal. The machine is a
>> Dell Optiplex 780. I've attached the lts.conf file and a picture so
>> you can see the behavior. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Jeff
> On 2017-02-24 19:12, Donaldson Jeff wrote:
>> Also, I forgot to include that I added the X_OPTION_01 = ""NoAccel""
>> to my lts.conf file and saw no change. It wasn't in the attached 
>> file
>> I sent previously. Sorry about that. Thanks for any help you can
>> provide.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>  Jeff Donaldson
>>  Technology Director
>>  Newark Charter School
>>  jeff.donald...@ncs.k12.de.us
>>  (302) 369-2001 ext: 625
>
> Jeff
>
> I have three more thoughts before I bow to those with more knowledge 
> on
> the subject.
>
> 1 - Check to see what kernel is in use in both modes. The command in
> the terminal is
>
>       uname -r
>
> and show us the results please.
>
> 2 - Some pc's will use some main memory for the onboard graphics. 
> Check
> to see how much main memory and swap memory is used in both modes. 
> The
> command is
>
>       free
>
> and show us the results please.
>
> 3 - Your lts.conf shows that Gnome fallback session is used and at a 
> 16
> bit color depth. What resolutions are offered and which one do you 
> use
> and at what refresh rate? Experiment with X_COLOR_DEPTH=8 and with
> X_COLOR_DEPTH=24 in lts.conf to see what changes you see (if any.)
>
> Richard

Jeff

Thinking a bit more about the lts.conf you submitted to the list:

First, I assume you added this line to ensure that all clients would 
run in thin client mode.

FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD=3000

Second, what lts.conf do you use for clients to run in fat client mode? 
I ask this to see if you continue to have the line

X_COLOR_DEPTH=16

uncommented which is not the default for fat clients. They use 24 bit 
as a default, however, the bandwidth on the network takes a significant 
hit when 24 bit rather than 16 bit is used.

Richard

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