If nothing exists for this, something could easily be invented. I don't know if ftp, sftp, or scp are capable of deleting files, but it would be easy enough to make a graphical ssh client that does all of its graphics client side.
-Eric Hattemer ----- Original Message ----- From: "MonMotha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [luau] MSWindows > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>If you'd like to explain how to delete files on a system that's 100s of > >>miles away without using rm or a similar command line utility, I'd be > >>happy to hear it. > > > > > > Even if there is none (existing), that is hardly a good reason for everyone > > to have to learn the arcana. This case is the exception, not the rule. I could > > imagine all sorts of problems that would call for extraordinary measures, that > > doesn't mean that it is actually a good idea to advise newbies to train themselves > > to provide these measures. CLI deserves to be an obscure specialty at best, > > not the foundation of administration. > > > > My objective was to point out that remote administration on low > bandiwidth connections by GUI is *impossible*. Graphics inherently need > lots of bandwidht to be done in realtime. Remember when you have your > 2400baud modem (if you never had one, I'm sure someone you know did)? I > bet you disabled images in netscape (or mosaic as the case may be). You > did this because they took ages to download (and you might have been > paying for every bit you moved too). The time of slow downloads is > over, and a remote GUI is *technologically* feasable. However, *cost* > prohibits them from being used in a WAN environment. > > The command line, on the other hand, is extremely low bandwidht. Typing > "rm -rf /lib/*" is 13 bytes+TCP overhead. Heck, the TCP overhead is > higher than than sending the actual data! The command line is VERY > bandwidht friendly (it's usable over a 1200bps serial link, though > barely if you have many screen refreshes). Try setting up SLIP or PPP > over a null modem cable, and run it at 1200-9600bps. Now try doing a > VNC or X window export. Heck use TightVNC with the highest (as in it > looks really bad) JPEG compression. It's still unusable! At 9600bps, a > command line is basically like your on a local console. > > As I said, extremely high bandwidth internet links are available. > However, they sure aren't cheap! Traffic for colocated serevers is very > espensive (multiple dollars per gigabyte is not uncommon). Start up a > remote display of soemthing like GMC or Nautilius over your LAN and see > how fast the traffic adds up. That kind of transfer will needlessly > cost you big money on a colocated server link. There's just no way > around it at this point in time. > > > Daffy Dave > > --MonMotha > > _______________________________________________ > LUAU mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau > >
