Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
MonMotha wrote:
with a bunch of useless information
When you post a message in any public forum, make sure you watch your
manner. Of course, I have been a big violator myself.
You know, I've been on here a while. If you don't like me, I'll
unsubscribe. In fact, with how Redhat/Fedora centric this list has
become, it is useless to me; I'll go ahead and unsubscribe after this post.
as I *will not* run Redhat or anything derrived directly from it, I
learned my lesson with RedHat 6.2 and 9).
Fedora Core =! Red Hat. If you don't like the Red Hat tainted kernel,
run the generic kernel. I am sure as you have been telling me, that you
are more than capable of doing that.
I don't care about the kernel (I *always* run my own kernel, Debian is no
exception). It's actually the almighty highfallutin' RedHat community
that gets to me. I asked why their compiler couldn't compile stock glibc
once. The response was to "use the RPM". Of course, there are people who
actually have a need to compile things, like when they're not targeting
the local system...
Fedora is being developed with a model more or less like Debian. I have
known a big bunch of Fedora developers in Taiwan and China who have
nothing to do with Red Hat. I don't give it a damn that you're putting
me down, but I do not appreciate that your bias is split over to those
noble volunteer developers. Wayne
I won't argue that Redhat/Fedora has contributed some very nice things to
the OSS community. They've also contributed a lot of crap, frankly.
Redhat/Fedora are usually horribly broken in many ways beyond what I can
possibly believe, but then maybe that's just because I don't like my
system to be tied to a specific set of stuff. Debian has packages for
well nigh everything, and you can usually make them work together. Their
installation scripts are almost always nice enough to ask you if you want
it to manage the config file for you or not (to which I almost invariably
choose no), an option not granted to me by Redhat/Fedora.
Despite what you may say, Fedora is very much Redhat like. Much more so
than, say, Mandrake (also derrived from Redhat). Heck, Redhat doesn't
exist anymore except in the form of RHEL, so Fedora might as well have
taken over from where Redhat left off. Unless FC has made some SERIOUS
changes (and by serious I mean like overhauling the whole damn thing), I
simply cannot work with Redhat or their community.
Also, suggesting that I change distributions simply to set one thing up is
preposterous. You may redo your system every few months, but I personally
like the fact that I'm not runnign windows and don't have to do that.
I've been running this install for over a year and a half now and have
never had a major problem with it (though recently I've been a bit upset
at how lagged Debian Unstable has gotten since Testing has basically been
frozen, but that's why we have alternate APT repositories). My question
VERY CLEARLY said that I wanted to know what the underlying changes that
needed to be made were. While you did indicate what those were (and yes,
Debian has it all nicely packaged for you), the implication that I should
"just install Fedora" is silly.
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