On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Nakashima wrote:
Over the years, I've witnessed exceptional acts of generosity, cooperation and
community within HOSEF and LUAU. However, the level of bickering has surprised
me.
Are you sure you're living in Hawaii? Level of bickering is surprising?
Are you not monitoring the Rail Transit debate? Are you not monitoring
the Hawaii K-12 education debate? If you have a group of people that has
more than 5 people, you'll have bickering. Is this a surprise for you?
Where are you from?
Being an educator, not a geek (in the positive sense), my rose-colored
expectations lead me to believe there would be a greater sense of community. I
hope HOSEF and LUAU can evolve into a strong, positive force for change.
I don't know what's going on. I've been reading this list continuously,
but somehow, this issue came about and I missed the beginning or
something. What exactly is the issue?
Jim, just to clarify; HOSEF is not LUAU and LUAU is not HOSEF. LUAU
predated HOSEF. If you want to know HOSEF, just visit its website. As
for LUAU, this is it. If you're reading this email, you're part of LUAU.
LUAU doesn't have a leader, there's no phone number, there's no monthly
meetings. There's no treasury. LUAU, at the end of the day, is just a
file with a list of email addresses on someone's computer. Apparently, at
the moment, it's lists.hosef.org. Note; this doesn't mean HOSEF _owns_
this list. The list used to be hosted on an ICS computer, that doesn't
mean ICS owned the list. If you want to learn some history about LUAU, do
a search in the archives.
If the owner of lists.hosef.org one day says: "I'm tired of this free/open
source software non-sense, I just want to surf the waves for the rest of
my life." That's fine. This happened before, but LUAU survived. It'll
survive this one as well, if it happens. I'll volunteer to host it myself
if need be.
Having said all this; HOSEF members have every right to post on LUAU, as
long as it is related to free and open source software. I haven't seen
anything yet that HOSEF members have posted that isn't related to free and
open source software. Thus, I have no reason to complain.
So, what is the problem? Who's bickering? What are they bickering about?
Misunderstandings happen. We clarify ourselves and we move on. What, we
haven't seen heated debates on LUAU before? When people are passionate
about something, heated debates will occur. This is free and open source
software. It's all about the passion. No one is getting paid for
this, so what else is there if not passion?
--jc
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Jimen Ching (WH6BRR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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