> I vaguely remember that Tony Q. and the folks at LavaNET used to do this,
> but is that gone now that the lavanet folks are gone? Is there any ISP's
> left that actually optimize their networks? UH can get to SF within 50ms,
> does anyone get those kinds of numbers on an ISP?

It's about double that with Hawaiiantel. Lavanet is still around and claim a
latency of 40-80 ms on their DSL service. They appear to piggyback on both
Hawaiiantel and Oceanic.

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