This all just shows how garbage firefox is BOOYA!!
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mikhail Maksimov <[email protected]>wrote: > Steve, > > I simply cannot deduce the difference. > > Fully updated my installation at about 7 AM GMT 2010-02-11. Used only > the default repos set by installer. Yet again freshly booted system > running just taskmanager and Midori reports 108 Mb RAM used. > > Midori's help->about reports: "Midori 0.2.2, GTK+ 2.19.1, WebKitGTK+ > 1.1.17" > > Why is it eating 30 Mb of RAM more than on your system? > > BTW, the 75 Mb usage with three pages seem unbelievably low. I'm going > to retry the tests having only 128 Mb RAM left in the system. > > Regards, > Mikhail > > On 2/11/10, Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:59:11 -0000, Mikhail Maksimov <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, all. > > > > I've resurrected an ancient PC to try Lubuntu. Celeron 400 MHz, 256 Mb > > RAM and a 20 Gb PATA HDD. Here's my impression of running different > > browsers on the specified hardware. > > > > Tried this on my machine 266MHz PII, 128MB 66MHz ECC RAM, 6.4GB UDM2 HDD > > Only tested Midori so far, will try others tomorrow. > > > > Testing method: > > 1. Install Lubuntu from Lucid alpha2 preview2 iso. > > As above fully updated as of 10:20 UTC 2010/2/10 > > > > 2. Install additional browsers (Chromium, Midori, Arora) from default > > Lucid repos. > > 3. For each of the four available browsers, measure startup time and > > memory usage on a freshly-booted machine (no executables cached), with > > homepage set to about:blank (no downloading/rendering on startup). > > 4. For each of the four available browsers, try to load three tabs: > > - open google.com, search for "Lubuntu"; > > - open my gmail account, navigate to a 47-letters thread in > > lubuntu-desktop list ("default browser" discussion), hit "expand all" > > and wait for all to expand; > > - open http://www.rbc.ru, a news site in Russian with several Flash > > banners on the start page. > > 5. Examine memory usage afterwards. > > > > All memory usage numbers are listed as reported by Xfce4 Taskmanager > > with default settings (ie, with "Show memory used by cache as free" > > option active). These values are total numbers, including any memory > > used by system. A freshly-booted system with just taskmanager running > > reports 50..58 Mb RAM used. > > > > Startup times and memory usage after loading (homepage is about:blank, > > if applicable): > > Firefox: 13 seconds, 85 Mb. > > Chromium: 8..10 s, 81 Mb. > > Arora: 12 s, 78 Mb. > > Midori: 17 s, 108 Mb. > > > > Midori: 23 s, 75MB > > > > > > Common problems noticed: > > 1. Standard Gmail interface is slow. After initializing, it occupies > > about half CPU capacity constantly. Occasionally, several seconds' > > delays happen just as I type this text. > > 2. Flash literally kills everything. Several gtk-gnash processes take > > up all CPU power the machine has. Several times, I had to wait for > > more than 10 minutes (!) until taskmanager window gets redrawn and I'm > > able to see memory usage. > > > > Arora problem: never finished expanding the 47 messages thread. "Still > > Working" message remains shown for more than 10 minutes, and there are > > about 15 messages not expanded. > > > > Firefox problem: while expanding 47 messages, gmail shows > > "unresponsive script" warning at least once. Apparently, the script is > > suspended until the user makes a choice, so the loading process needs > > close user attention. > > > > Midori: initially, gmail did not identify it as a fully compatible > > browser and loaded a reduced "compatible" interface. However, after > > changing the reported browser type to Firefox in preferences, no > > problems encountered with the full version of gmail interface. > > > > Same problem and solution > > > > Memory usage with three tabs loaded: > > Firefox: 150..160 Mb. > > Arora: 175..185 Mb. > > Midori: 175..185 Mb. > > Chromium: 135..145 Mb. > > > > Midori: 74MB > > > > Conclusion: on low-grade hardware, flash and script-rich pages are > > painfully slow regardless of the browser. On less than 192 Mb RAM, you > > are likely to experience swapping with several pages opened in any > > browser. > > > > Given the available options, my vote is for Chromium *and* disabling > > flash by default. Best is to start playing flash only after the user > > clicks on it, however I'm not sure if it's possible without hacking > > the browser code. > > > > Regards, > > Mikhail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > -- > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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