I'd just like to add one thing that EVERYBODY is forgettin GRUB IS NOT THE *ONLY* BOOTLOADER!!!!
Try LILO, It is a perfectly fine bootloader, or am I just thinking outside the box here and being too radical. Just because Grub is default in Ubuntu doesn't mean it is the best solution. You could also try BURG -Andy On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:33 +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote: > hi Goh, > > > yes, there is, it is not a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also > the work around for a bug that one of the > devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 > says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with > problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to > use still to use "dpkg-reconfigure" and not apt-get etc. > > > I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere > mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a > strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the > grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the > dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally > broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given > the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to > problems. > > > I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause > major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that > is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a > newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back > port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that > is still a 'work around'. > > > Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will > not that there is one - It must be sorted out. > > > Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a > problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non > booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not > fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When > we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is > a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell > everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in > the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we > should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such > situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. > > > Regards, > > > Phill. > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Goh Lip <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 > Phillip Whiteside <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Goh, > > > > I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? > > > > Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it > does not > > break anything. > > > > At present it can totally break things. There is no point > arguing > > over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it > has broken > > there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a > lot of > > people saying that it does. > > > > The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the > 'older' > > grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread > fully > > > > some links to read, > > > Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some > problems > not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm > and > others.......but not to denigrate your specific issue which is > the > failure to install by "install grub-pc" and you have found > success by "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"; yes, you're right, > I cannot > see the point arguing that it should just work with "install > grub-pc" > and not just "sudo apt-get install grub-pc". You do not seem > to have > read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding > how to > install grub. > > Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring > up > rather than saying I haven't read fully? > > > Goh Lip > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
