I will offer to be "official proofreader"-I'm a bit of a pedant. On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:20:04 -0800 Jonathan Marsden <jmars...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On 11/25/2011 04:02 AM, Martin Olesen wrote: > > > I am showing this to more people than the ones who are registered > > users of the wiki page. If I demand that they begin with a > > registration I will lose half of the responses. > > > OK, please at least link to the demo site and response page from the > wiki page, so people who know about the wiki page find the other one. > Maybe do the reverse too, so those who read the comments on Google Docs > can easily go read the other comments on the wiki page? > > I think real beginners will find it hard to ignore the lack of pretty > graphics and theme, so you might want to mock up something using > Raphael's proposed "simple blue Ubuntu" theme before exposing this to > large numbers of real newcomers. > > >> (1) Seven tabs is too many; let's keep it simpler than that. > > > > Fine with me, but that does not help me much. Which tabs do you > > want? > > > Rafael's first three choices borrowed from the ubuntu.com site (Home, > Download, Support) are nice and simple, and self-explanatory. Their > purposes are each very clear. His next two were Community and Wiki, > which may also be appropriate, but seem slightly less "obvious" for real > newcomers ("what exactly will I find under Community, a live chat with > Lubuntu people? When do I need to use Wiki, and what *is* a wiki?"). I > think things like "Modify Lubuntu" are potentially a bit too scary for > newcomers to be top level items ("you mean I have to hack on it??") and > so should be avoided :) > > So maybe just Home, Download, Support, Community. Then have links to > wiki-based information as needed within the site, and discuss the > concept of a set of online documentation that all in the community can > easily add to and improve, under "Community" (and, with emphasis on what > it contains, rather than on editing it, under "Support")? > > I like the idea of differentiating between "Trying out Lubuntu" and > "Installing Lubuntu"; these could be sub-pages under Download (so we > encourage people to download it, try it, install it, in that order), and > the Installing one could be linked from under Support too. > > Incidentally, have you considered documenting use of a VM for trying out > Lubuntu without removing your "old" operating system? More techie than > booting from a LiveCD, but also much closer to experiencing "the real > thing". For users with decent PC hardware, it may be much less scary to > set up Lubuntu in a VM than to repartition their hard drive or remove > Windows! Once you find yourself needing to ask "what if the computer > has four primary partitions already?", you are not meeting the needs of > newcomers any more! Are you going to explain UEFI booting and > configuration, for those with modern motherboards, too? :) > > >> (2) Proposed site home page is basically content-less, and so not > >> useful. Not even a button to download the most commonly wanted > > >> Lubuntu ISO! > > > Correct, this is an early test. You will see more and more content > > being added over time. > > > OK, but getting the front page correct is really important. Deciding > what should be there, and what should be on subsidiary pages, can make > or break a site (cf. your comments on all the videos that used to be on > the front page of the old lubuntu.net!). So this should be thought > about (and tested) early in the design process. > > >> (3) Proposed site content (and look/feel/theme) does not connect at > >> all to (or address the whole issue of how it relates to) existing > >> online Lubuntu documentation at wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com > > > > As I wrote, "please give suggestions regarding text, layout and > > navigation. Pictures, colours and the like come at a later time." > > Never mind how it looks, for now. Your proposed pages include things > like hardware requirements, which are already documented elsewhere; are > you proposing that the new site will ignore the wiki and so we end up > having to maintain that information in two different ways on two > separate pages? If not, how does the new site "blend into" the existing > wiki pages? Once browsing within the wiki, how does a user "get back" > to the lubuntu.net site? > > For theme and navigation, I like Rafael's "make it look like a simpler > blue Ubuntu site" concept, but the graphical look is less important to > me than ability to easily find information, and to know that information > is likely to be correct and up to date. For that, the basic principle > of how and when the lubuntu.net site links to the existing wiki pages, > and vice versa, needs to be clearly established, and then consistently > implemented. > > >> (4) In English, we say "operating system" not "operative system". > > >> There are a couple of other places where the English needs tidying up. > > > > Sure, we need a native Brit to proof-read. I'll correct this one when > > I get home. Did you find any more of these? > > > I am a "native Brit" (born in England, although now living in > California); my father is a (now retired) schoolteacher with an M.A. in > English from Cambridge University... so he made sure my English was > pretty good :) I'm not volunteering as an official site proofreader, > though. > > Here are a couple more: "run as a live boot" feels awkward; "run live, > directly from a CDROM or USB stick", maybe? "way different" feels > unnecessarily "California slang" in style; "very different" or "much > faster" might be clearer? > > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Michael Rawson <michaelrawso...@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp