Ali, I completely agree with you and Ronnie, we don't need to change the custom interface of Lubuntu, I prefer continue talking about offering alternatives. But please, let me explain why I think is a good idea have an additional "XP skin" using an example: I have a customer, female 60yo. She has an old PentiumD with 1 GB ram and XP. She use the PC mainly for Internet, email (using a browser) and Facebook. Sometime she like to listen music and use an old version of Openoffice. Migrate could be easy and to begin I proposed a dual boot XP/Lubuntu 12.04 LTS. After a couple of weeks she starts using more deeply Lubuntu but she always back to XP to do something, like write a CD. Why? Because after many years she was used to choose things on screen based on colors and shape. Trust me, we are not speaking about a monkey, she is a smart woman. After a further customization of the interface (icons and windows borders primarily) she switch completely to Lubuntu. In this way I have helped one more person to migrate, that's for me is an happy ending, and everybody here loves happy endings. :)
This category of people is perhaps just 1% of the potential users, but they exist and need all the help we can offer because sometimes teaching is not enough. Yust my 2c. F. Em 05/07/2013 07:24, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <[email protected]> escreveu: > > I do agree with each and every word Ronnie wrote. > WE DO HAVE an XP like desktop so we do NOT need anything else, IMHO :) but > that is only me and Ronnie so far who are saying this. YMMV. > > As for the Trash on the Desktop, well, that request has been made long time > ago on the mailing list but I'm sorry to say, no one took it seriously and > now, I guess we have to. Because, discussions on the mailing lists could be > lost, this is something that can not be lost: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1072108 > > I do have a different opinion about the 'skin' or exactly XP Desktop like for > Lubuntu. > IMHO, this is NOT good idea. What is the point to shout proudly and loudly > that "Hey XP User, we have something new, with this and that, etc etc ... but > guess what? you will have the same skin/theme of XP". > Then, IMHO, this is NOT new. Let the user choose the theme he/she likes. Do > not give him a clone of the 'OLD' dead system. Again, that is my opinion and > YMMV :) > > HOWEVER, if someone wants to build a package, a theme, an PPA, whatever you > call it that will provide the same skin for XP, and offer that for the users, > I see no harm. BUT PLEASE, DO NOT change the current look of Lubuntu JUST > because Windows XP Users :) > > We should NOT forget that Lubuntu is NOT only for Windows XP Users. So many > Linux Users are using it. I imagine they will dislike the new look. > > I know, NO ONE said we will go and change ... totally understand .. hey, I'm > just saying and sharing my opinion, just in case :) > > Thanks! > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've put a request in to have the availability of a functioning trash can on >> the desktop. As to if it will happen? Pass. >> >> Having just had screams (and lots of them) from changing a computer system >> from XP to Win 8, you are quite correct... XP users have used it for over a >> decade. If we can make it less painful for them to adopt lubuntu then I do >> think it is a worthwhile excersise. No computers will be harmed during the >> trials :) The ability to take a 'skin' of another OS has been around for a >> long time. >> >> Regards, >> >> Phill. >> >> On 5 July 2013 03:26, Mr Wislr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps it would make more sense to concentrate on a mac variant. >>> >>> My reasons: >>> >>> Lubuntu's paradigm is already virtually an xp clone. >>> Outside of different icons and theme color, there isn't much difference. >>> >>> If wanting to totally mimic an XP desktop because those users are picky >>> an expect certain 'looks' and placement of things then they will expect >>> a working desktop trash can that you can drag and drop to and empty. >>> Currently LXDE does have trash but not as expected on the desktop. >>> >>> A mac interface on the other hand does have functional differences and >>> ways of doing things, which would warrant the attention of the script >>> to help those users. But as for an XP like interface, its my opinion >>> that how the LXDE interface was born any how, based on XP. >>> >>> Menus, task switching, notification, clock and calendar are in the >>> expect position, windowing functions virtually the same. So in other >>> words what would really change with XP variant? >>> >>> Mac I get it, XP, we already have it. >>> >>> --Ronnie >> >> >> >> >> -- >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> > > > > -- > > "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > Best Regards, > amjjawad > Start Ubuntu > My Own Business > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
