+1 Offer people something new in their life.... choice :)
Regards, Phill. On 5 July 2013 17:40, Federico Leoni <[email protected]> wrote: > Ali, > > I completely agree with you and Ronnie, we don't need to change the > custom interface of Lubuntu, I prefer continue talking about offering > alternatives. But please, let me explain why I think is a good idea > have an additional "XP skin" using an example: I have a customer, > female 60yo. She has an old PentiumD with 1 GB ram and XP. She use the > PC mainly for Internet, email (using a browser) and Facebook. Sometime > she like to listen music and use an old version of Openoffice. Migrate > could be easy and to begin I proposed a dual boot XP/Lubuntu 12.04 > LTS. After a couple of weeks she starts using more deeply Lubuntu but > she always back to XP to do something, like write a CD. Why? Because > after many years she was used to choose things on screen based on > colors and shape. Trust me, we are not speaking about a monkey, she is > a smart woman. > After a further customization of the interface (icons and windows > borders primarily) she switch completely to Lubuntu. In this way I > have helped one more person to migrate, that's for me is an happy > ending, and everybody here loves happy endings. :) > > This category of people is perhaps just 1% of the potential users, but > they exist and need all the help we can offer because sometimes > teaching is not enough. > > Yust my 2c. > > F. > > > Em 05/07/2013 07:24, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <[email protected]> escreveu: > > > > I do agree with each and every word Ronnie wrote. > > WE DO HAVE an XP like desktop so we do NOT need anything else, IMHO :) > but that is only me and Ronnie so far who are saying this. YMMV. > > > > As for the Trash on the Desktop, well, that request has been made long > time ago on the mailing list but I'm sorry to say, no one took it seriously > and now, I guess we have to. Because, discussions on the mailing lists > could be lost, this is something that can not be lost: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1072108 > > > > I do have a different opinion about the 'skin' or exactly XP Desktop > like for Lubuntu. > > IMHO, this is NOT good idea. What is the point to shout proudly and > loudly that "Hey XP User, we have something new, with this and that, etc > etc ... but guess what? you will have the same skin/theme of XP". > > Then, IMHO, this is NOT new. Let the user choose the theme he/she likes. > Do not give him a clone of the 'OLD' dead system. Again, that is my opinion > and YMMV :) > > > > HOWEVER, if someone wants to build a package, a theme, an PPA, whatever > you call it that will provide the same skin for XP, and offer that for the > users, I see no harm. BUT PLEASE, DO NOT change the current look of Lubuntu > JUST because Windows XP Users :) > > > > We should NOT forget that Lubuntu is NOT only for Windows XP Users. So > many Linux Users are using it. I imagine they will dislike the new look. > > > > I know, NO ONE said we will go and change ... totally understand .. hey, > I'm just saying and sharing my opinion, just in case :) > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I've put a request in to have the availability of a functioning trash > can on the desktop. As to if it will happen? Pass. > >> > >> Having just had screams (and lots of them) from changing a computer > system from XP to Win 8, you are quite correct... XP users have used it for > over a decade. If we can make it less painful for them to adopt lubuntu > then I do think it is a worthwhile excersise. No computers will be harmed > during the trials :) The ability to take a 'skin' of another OS has been > around for a long time. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Phill. > >> > >> On 5 July 2013 03:26, Mr Wislr <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Perhaps it would make more sense to concentrate on a mac variant. > >>> > >>> My reasons: > >>> > >>> Lubuntu's paradigm is already virtually an xp clone. > >>> Outside of different icons and theme color, there isn't much > difference. > >>> > >>> If wanting to totally mimic an XP desktop because those users are picky > >>> an expect certain 'looks' and placement of things then they will expect > >>> a working desktop trash can that you can drag and drop to and empty. > >>> Currently LXDE does have trash but not as expected on the desktop. > >>> > >>> A mac interface on the other hand does have functional differences and > >>> ways of doing things, which would warrant the attention of the script > >>> to help those users. But as for an XP like interface, its my opinion > >>> that how the LXDE interface was born any how, based on XP. > >>> > >>> Menus, task switching, notification, clock and calendar are in the > >>> expect position, windowing functions virtually the same. So in other > >>> words what would really change with XP variant? > >>> > >>> Mac I get it, XP, we already have it. > >>> > >>> --Ronnie > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > >> > >> -- > >> Lubuntu-users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > > Start Ubuntu > > My Own Business > > > > > > -- > > Lubuntu-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > -- > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >
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