As silly as it may sound, using that old floppy again seems rather nostalgic. I have a box of floppy's purchased some 5 or 6 years ago & at the time thinking why?
thanks, richie On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Nio Wiklund <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I think most of us prefer using CD/DVD/USB, but as stated > > "I suspect some old CD drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in > this machine is somewhat erratic" > > In such cases (and the computer has USB but cannot boot directly from > it) Plop and floppy can be the solution. > > Best regards > Nio > > On 2013-07-23 04:44, Andre Rodovalho wrote: > > floppy? I prefer using CDs, Hirens Boots CD has PLOP Boot Manager: > > http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ > > > > > > 2013/7/22 Richie Bloss <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> > > > > Hi, currently on 12.04 & just discovered it's not LTS (like Ubuntu), > > so might as well go with Saucy. > > > > I just got the Bluetooth (Bluez) devices working, the laptop > > entering sleep mode when closing lid & WiFi working. So why not > > install 13.10 & do it all over again. > > > > > > Last year I was unsuccessful installing 12.04 from CD, the install > > froze each & every time. Remember trying several of the options: > > acpi=off, noapic, etc. Do not remember everything I tried but really > > had no idea what i was doing anyway - still don't :). Did create a > > thread on the Ubuntu forums but can't get to it right now, forums > down. > > > > 11.10 installs just fine. I only have a CD drive & the machine does > > not support boot from USB. > > > > > > Here is an email, I saved, from the Lubuntu mailing list a while > back: > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > / We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I > > > > believe there is more to this than just RAM size. I suspect > some > > > old CD > > > > drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in this > machine is > > > > somewhat erratic. > > > > > > Therefore we need to recommend the usage of usb live sticks. > > > CD-ROM/DVD-ROM > > > drives tend to fail and also cd/dvd-writers tend to write > cd-rs with > > > to much > > > errors. > > > > > > > > > Hello Leszek, > > > > > > You may forgot that some old machines don't really have USB Ports. > If > > > these have, the machine doesn't boot from that USB and not everyone > > > knows about *PLOP*, and yes, we are talking about the new and > beginners users. > > > > > > I do agree that LiveUSB makes a lot of difference indeed as far as > I've > > > seen for the last 2 years for so many tests I have personally done. > > > However, the classic and the standard approach, IMHO, shall be the > *LiveCD.*/ > > ** > > ** > > / the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is > for > > > this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)/ > > > ************************************************************************** > > > > > > Plop sounds interesting. I do have a floppy drive that has barely > > been used. Could I create a floppy disk image (plpbt.img?) & boot > > from that? Do I have enough floppy's? > > > > Before I begin thought perhaps I might post here & ask for > > suggestions regarding the best way to get the 13.10 install going on > > an old P3 that has only CD & will not boot from USB? > > > > Some months back on the Lubuntu Facebook group someone (Phill I > > think) suggested an alternate method for installing Lubuntu with a > > feature at that time unsupported by Lubuntu. This was for machines > > that had trouble with normal installs from LiveCD. > > > > What about the Minimal Install even tho I see that's applies to PC's > > with 1/4 the RAM? Would that make my PC even faster? > > > > > > On another note: > > Have been setting swappiness value to 10 which helps - not > > completely sure how zRAM & swappiness differ. Low values of > > swappiness avoid swapping memory to the swap partition as much as > > possible whereas zRAM creates a compressed swap partition in RAM, > > does that sound right? > > zRAM appears to make the old P3 faster than swappiness. > > Would there be further benefit setting swappiness down to 10 (or 0) > > with zRAM installed? > > Came across a confusing askubuntu thread thread suggesting: > > /zRam is useful for people using computers with 1GB or 2GB RAM. > > Since zRam is compressing data, it require some processor resources. > > Not much, but always. For that reason i do not recommend to use it > > with old processors/. > > That seems contradictory to the stated objective for zRAM in 13.10. > > > > > > Sorry if this is too many questions. > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to > > school like I did. > > Yogi Berra > > > > -- > > Lubuntu-users mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > -- I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra
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