Should have hit reply "all" on this yesterday. Think a minimal install will the best way to learn.
thanks, richie bloss ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richie Bloss <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Installing 13.10 on older laptop PIII 1.14 GHz, 512 MB RAM To: Andre Rodovalho <[email protected]> Hi, thanks for Hiren's. First think I'm going to give the minimal install a shot. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Andre Rodovalho <[email protected]>wrote: > floppy? I prefer using CDs, Hirens Boots CD has PLOP Boot Manager: > http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ > > > 2013/7/22 Richie Bloss <[email protected]> > >> Hi, currently on 12.04 & just discovered it's not LTS (like Ubuntu), so >> might as well go with Saucy. >> >> I just got the Bluetooth (Bluez) devices working, the laptop entering >> sleep mode when closing lid & WiFi working. So why not install 13.10 & do >> it all over again. >> >> >> Last year I was unsuccessful installing 12.04 from CD, the install froze >> each & every time. Remember trying several of the options: acpi=off, noapic, >> etc. Do not remember everything I tried but really had no idea what i was >> doing anyway - still don't :). Did create a thread on the Ubuntu forums >> but can't get to it right now, forums down. >> >> 11.10 installs just fine. I only have a CD drive & the machine does not >> support boot from USB. >> >> >> Here is an email, I saved, from the Lubuntu mailing list a while back: >> >> >> *************************************************************************** >> * We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I >> > > believe there is more to this than just RAM size. I suspect some >> > old CD >> > > drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in this machine is >> > > somewhat erratic. >> > >> > Therefore we need to recommend the usage of usb live sticks. >> > CD-ROM/DVD-ROM >> > drives tend to fail and also cd/dvd-writers tend to write cd-rs with >> > to much >> > errors. >> > >> > >> > Hello Leszek, >> > >> > You may forgot that some old machines don't really have USB Ports. If >> > these have, the machine doesn't boot from that USB and not everyone >> > knows about PLOP, and yes, we are talking about the new and beginners >> users. >> > >> > I do agree that LiveUSB makes a lot of difference indeed as far as I've >> > seen for the last 2 years for so many tests I have personally done. >> > However, the classic and the standard approach, IMHO, shall be the >> LiveCD.* >> ** >> ** >> * the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is for >> > this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)* >> ************************************************************************** >> >> >> Plop sounds interesting. I do have a floppy drive that has barely been >> used. Could I create a floppy disk image (plpbt.img?) & boot from that? >> Do I have enough floppy's? >> >> Before I begin thought perhaps I might post here & ask for suggestions >> regarding the best way to get the 13.10 install going on an old P3 that has >> only CD & will not boot from USB? >> >> Some months back on the Lubuntu Facebook group someone (Phill I >> think) suggested an alternate method for installing Lubuntu with a feature >> at that time unsupported by Lubuntu. This was for machines that had >> trouble with normal installs from LiveCD. >> >> What about the Minimal Install even tho I see that's applies to PC's with >> 1/4 the RAM? Would that make my PC even faster? >> >> >> On another note: >> Have been setting swappiness value to 10 which helps - not completely >> sure how zRAM & swappiness differ. Low values of swappiness avoid swapping >> memory to the swap partition as much as possible whereas zRAM creates a >> compressed swap partition in RAM, does that sound right? >> zRAM appears to make the old P3 faster than swappiness. >> Would there be further benefit setting swappiness down to 10 (or 0) with >> zRAM installed? >> Came across a confusing askubuntu thread thread suggesting: >> *zRam is useful for people using computers with 1GB or 2GB RAM. Since >> zRam is compressing data, it require some processor resources. Not much, >> but always. For that reason i do not recommend to use it with old processors >> *. >> That seems contradictory to the stated objective for zRAM in 13.10. >> >> >> Sorry if this is too many questions. [?] >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school >> like I did. >> Yogi Berra >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >> > -- I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra -- I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra
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