On 11/18/2013 11:10 AM, Iberê Fernandes wrote: > 2013/11/18 Julien Lavergne <gi...@ubuntu.com>: >> Before talking about the future of Lubuntu, you have to know and realize the >> followings facts : >> >> - My availability will not improve in the future. That means I will focus on >> fixing stuff, improving lxsession stuff, try to do some documentation, and >> prepare the future. >> >> - We have to consider that no one will magically appear to improve the code >> of Lubuntu. It's the case since many months, and I don't think it will >> magically change for the next 6 months. We also don't have the >> infrastructure (documentation, clean process, availability of mentors ...) >> to correctly train new people on the devs team, so even if new young and >> enthusiastic people arrive, they can't really help us if they need training, >> guidance ...We may have some outside help on specific topics or bugs, but it >> will not change deeply Lubuntu as we know it. If eventually someone comes >> with actual work (mean, actual working code), we can still consider it if >> it's well tested. >> >> - LXDE is dying. Well, except pcmanfm, all components are frozen and will >> probably not going to see any improvements in the next 6 months. Expect only >> bug fixes and translations updates. >> >> - LXQt (the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE, using Qt instead of GTK) is slowly >> taking the place of the LXDE GTK. All work are done on this branch. >> >> Considering this, and the result of the previous release, we have to admit >> that we need to focus on fixing bugs for 14.04. We can't introduce new >> functionalities and new stuff, unless it fixes bugs, or if someone from >> outside the Lubuntu dev team is actively working on it. In the short-term, >> that means : >> >> - The only LXDE components which will be eventually upgraded will be pcmanfm >> / libfm. The others will be upgraded, but currently there are only bug fixes >> / translation updates releases. >> >> - Adding light-locker for locking screen, it's actively developed, use (or >> will be used) by Xubuntu, it's in the philosophy of Lubuntu (GTK apps >> without any depends on other environment), it's prettier than xscreensaver, >> more integrated with lightdm, and it will hopefully fix the locking problems >> we have. >> >> - No others changes in default applications. We removed the more >> problematics ones, and a change will cause more testing, more integration >> work … Generaly, and by default, we are frozen in term of functionalities. >> >> >> The goal is double : >> >> - Stabilize this 14.04 as much as we can, so it can be the release >> reference. >> >> - Prepare an eventual switch to Qt for 14.10, mostly by preparing the >> testing environment for people, and make possible a smooth upgrade from the >> GTK version. >> >> I'll go through the blueprints open for discussions, but I'll apply strictly >> the “rules” I made above. Don't be surprised … >> >> Usually, there is a blueprint which summarize the workitems for the release >> (see this for example >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-lubuntu-work-items). >> Since the next release is a “all-you-can-fix” roadmap, maintaining it will >> be IMO a waste of time. If you want to work on something specific, talk to >> me by mail or IRC (gilir on #lubuntu). >> >> Regards, >> >> Julien Lavergne >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> > Julien, > > Thank you for your detailed e-mail. I was looking forward to hearing > from 14.04 and the future. > > Regarding: >> Since the next release is a “all-you-can-fix” roadmap, maintaining it will >> be IMO a waste of time. If you want to work on something specific, talk to >> me by mail or IRC (gilir on #lubuntu). > I agree it'll be a waste of time if we may be moving to LXQt on 14.10 cycle. > > Hence, does 14.04 has to remain LTS yet? I mean, should we drop the > LTS idea for 14.04 once: > - LXDE is dying; > - we're missing devs and LTS would demand support together with the > non-LTS releases. > - LXQt seems to be not ready for 14.04 > > Best regards, > +1 LXQt. Of course if you do an LTS, you can SRU LXQt when it works correctly, right? You can include a ppa when using pbuilder, so couldn't you transition people to LXQt once it is mature? Or am I misunderstanding something? Also, Ubuntu is making a lot of Qt apps (for phone, etc...) but many of those should work fairly easily with LXQt, and QML apps are pretty simple to write, so building a QML app with the SDK to do simple things seems to be fairly straightforward.
I am new here by the way, Hi everyone! I may have accidentally jumped into the middle and didn't hear the full beginning, so excuse me if I made some wrong inferences. I am also beginning to learn QML, and have a basic C++ understanding (still learning). I really like Lubuntu more than all the other alternatives to Unity (though I do like Unity as well). I joined this list because of talking to Rafael Laguna about artwork, and this e-mail intrigued me so much I had to chime in. -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
