Hi Basil, I generally do a 'clean' install for each new release. I usually keep my /home in a separate partition, and simply reinstall using a Live USB.
You could try simply updating your system from a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade or perhaps. sudo do-release-upgrade Of course you may need to move your configuration files to a backup, and let the current system re-make them for you. If you have an issue, we would like to help if we can :) On 09/08/2014 05:11 AM, Basil Fernie wrote: > ...or, Lost MY GUI in 14.04! > > Been watching this one with a sort of morbid interest, because my laptop > is sitting with a failed upgrade from 12.04.? Symptoms include a > frequent > failure to display desktop on boot apart from taskbar across bottom of > screen and conky in top right-hand corner (at least the Xserver is > presumably working), I can select and run any application from the main > Lubuntu menu, so am not totally immobilised, but try "Send to gesktop"? > Nothing visible happens. > > Also lack of the volume control applet icon on the taskbar so I have no > convenient means of muting sound. Certainly the sound is working, but > there is no control on the desktop. Task Manager advises pulseaudio at > work, also reveals > gvfs-afc-volume-monitor and gvfs-ufd-volume-monitor and > gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor are active, whatever they may be I don't > know how to control them or even if I should be able to. > > And I have 817 uninstalled upgrades waiting for ...what? That number > has come down from over 830 after repeated apt-get update, apt-get > upgrade, apt-get autoremove sequences; it has stuck now stubbornly on > 817. Seems to be blocked by a purported lack af sane-devices (but I > can scan without difficulty from my HP DeskJet F4180...) > > Every now and then a "System Upgrade" advisory window opens - if I > click "Run" it frowns at me and says "This program cannot do an > upgrade from "Trusty" to "Precise". Which is understandable, but I was > rather hoping it wouls complete the upgrade from the older to the newer. > > Oh, and I have 2 instances of nmapplet-manager running after boot, > but this is a know and resolved issue. > > All this in the wake of an attempted click-and-lean-back, > watch-the-terminal-messages-scrolling-past automated upgrade from > 12.04.04 to 14.04.1 (I had decided to wait for the first point update > to be released, memories of Microsoft days, better safe than sorry > right?) > > Earlier, though, while still purportedly runnining on 12.04.?, and > religiously using "Update Manager" to stay, well, up-to-date, I wwould > be instructed to insert my 14.04 CD (DVD) as some needed files were on > it. So I did, the ISO DVD with which I had done live boots for > version-testing, and concluded that I would wait for 14.04.1 before > doing the system upgrade. Apparently UM couldn't penetrate the .iso > barrier (directory structure) to find the files it needed... Which > CD/DVD was it looking for, please advise? Surely this shouldn't be a > problem? > > So while I would be delighted to help test L14.10, I'm not too > sanguine about committing time to a version which it doesn't seem will > be clear of the problems I already face, but will have the added > problem, I hear, that synaptiks won't be usable with it. Synaptiks is > the only reason I can type this e-mail on my laptop without going > crazy. This could be show-stopper stuff. > > Currently I'm transferring workload bit-by-bit to a parallel > installation of LXDE 14.04.1 which of course depends heavily on > Lubuntu. It's not perfect, of course, but seems to be clear of most of > the hassles encountered here - so far. > > Strength and fortitude and great appreciation to all, > > Basil Fernie > > > > > > On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:34:24 +0200, Henk Terhell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> There are still several issues on both Lubuntu 14.10 and Xubuntu >> 14.10 on my device. >> Main issues are: >> Lubuntu 14.10: >> - only after a terminal upgrade of nvidia driver 304 I get a GUI >> back.The automatic upgrade from the menu of the software updater gave >> me again the old version of 304.123 resulting in a blank screen. >> - login is required after screen time-out, which cannot be switched >> off. The handling through Xfce Power Manager is confusing and doesn't >> function well (e.g. system sleep mode cannot be changed from >> suspend). Installing xscreensaver could help to control the handling >> of screen time-out, but such action is not needed in L14.04. >> >> I will replace shortly my current L14.10 with a fresh daily build and >> see what happens, but I don't expect differences. >> >> Xubuntu 14.10: >> - only from terminal login and command startx I get a GUI with latest >> driver 304.123 >> - although the nvidia sound card is recognized with command inxi -AG, >> there is no output to the internal monitor speakers (in lubuntu 14.10 >> there is no sound problem at all) >> >> Henk >> >> Israel schreef op 6-9-2014 om 20:25: >>> Great Henk! >>> So everything works for both L(X)ubuntu? >>> This issue shouldn't be present then in the daily builds, is this >>> correct? >>> >>> You say there is a sound problem now? >>> Is this for Lubuntu or Xubuntu? >>> >>> Maybe testing the daily image for Lubuntu will confirm that the >>> startx/nvidia issue is fixed. >>> >>> >>> On 09/06/2014 03:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>> I just read about an upgrade fix that was issued for nvidia 304.123 >>>> (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1365336 at >>>> #45; there is an explanation at #32) >>>> Xubuntu 14.10 still needs startx to boot the desktop after an upgrade >>>> to this driver was received. >>>> Very strange there is still a sound problem in this distro. >>>> >>>> In Lubuntu 14.10 I did therefore also an upgrade sudo upgrade >>>> nvidia-304 and got the desktop back! >>>> >>>> Henk >>>> >>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 22:33: >>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>> So, if I understand you >>>>> Lubuntu cannot enter the Destkop, because it cannot start the >>>>> xserver. >>>>> Xubuntu fails to start the Xserver, but can start it from terminal. >>>>> >>>>> Is this correct? The issue may still be the display manager since >>>>> Xubuntu does not start X automatically. However there is a >>>>> possibility >>>>> that Xorg in Utopic has changes that make supporting your card >>>>> difficult. I wonder if there are any xorg or xserver updates >>>>> since you >>>>> downloaded Lubuntu. I think someone with more understanding of the >>>>> entire display process of Linux needs to jump in here... >>>>> But... keep an eye on the updates, and see what packages come in an >>>>> either fix or break the machine. I may set up a VM to test this, >>>>> but I >>>>> have some other stuff going on right now that is taking up a lot of >>>>> time :) >>>>> >>>>> On 09/05/2014 02:46 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>> Strange enough Xubuntu 14.10 on the same PC doesn't start in GUI but >>>>>> hangs after every boot at the terminal. After login and StartX the >>>>>> desktop appears. >>>>>> Both nouveau and NVDIA 304.123 video drivers do work well in Xubuntu >>>>>> 14.10 without any screen freezes so far . So there is difference >>>>>> with >>>>>> Lubuntu 14.10. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Lubuntu 14.10, sound handling is much improved and worked for me >>>>>> out-of-the-box. >>>>>> In Xubuntu 14.10 I haven't yet figured out how to get sound as >>>>>> Pulseaudio cannot find there my built-in monitor speakers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Henk >>>>>> >>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 5-9-2014 om 17:12: >>>>>>> Thanks Israel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had filed a bug report #1363919 in the nvidia drivers section >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> days ago as I couldn't find a related report. >>>>>>> The screen dump of startx is different as before. It now only >>>>>>> shows a >>>>>>> non-fatal error about XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (Type >>>>>>> "ONE_Level" has >>>>>>> 1 levels but <RALT> has 2 symbols). >>>>>>> A good idea to install Xubuntu 14.10 alongside. I'll let you know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 16:24: >>>>>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>>>>> My guess is that this is something to do with lightdm still, since >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> just got an upgrade for it. >>>>>>>> That would be the place to start looking. You could search >>>>>>>> Launchpad to >>>>>>>> see if there is a bug related to this issue. If you cannot >>>>>>>> find any, >>>>>>>> I'd suggest opening a bug for it. It may effect users of >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> desktop environments as well, and then we can know that it is >>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>> Lubuntu specific issue. If it is specific to Lubuntu then it >>>>>>>> may be >>>>>>>> related to the Lubuntu session file.... (sorry I can't remember >>>>>>>> what it >>>>>>>> is called at the moment). This is the Lubuntu specific 'startx' >>>>>>>> command. >>>>>>>> I am guessing you still cannot 'startx' and get X up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could also try downgrading lightdm, I suppose, but that can be >>>>>>>> rather messy when you do things like that... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another option would be to install something like Xubuntu in a >>>>>>>> secondary >>>>>>>> partition and see if you are effected with the same issue when you >>>>>>>> update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this is fully fixed before release! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 08:34 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Israel >>>>>>>>> If I recall correctly I got two times upgrades of 14.10 in >>>>>>>>> last two >>>>>>>>> days, 3 sept. and today. >>>>>>>>> Lost my desktop again with the first one. >>>>>>>>> The output of your command is below: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> libdvdnav4:i386 >>>>>>>>> simple-scan:i386 >>>>>>>>> python3-gi:i386 >>>>>>>>> linux-headers-generic:i386 >>>>>>>>> linux-image-generic:i386 >>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>> python-gi:i386 >>>>>>>>> python-gobject:all >>>>>>>>> python3-update-manager:all >>>>>>>>> update-manager-core:all >>>>>>>>> update-manager:all >>>>>>>>> libldap-2.4-2:i386 >>>>>>>>> chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra:i386 >>>>>>>>> lshw:i386 >>>>>>>>> usb-creator-gtk:i386 >>>>>>>>> usb-creator-common:i386 >>>>>>>>> lightdm:i386 >>>>>>>>> liblightdm-gobject-1-0:i386 >>>>>>>>> language-pack-en:all >>>>>>>>> language-pack-gnome-en:all >>>>>>>>> iproute2:i386 >>>>>>>>> libmpdec2:i386 >>>>>>>>> libhunspell-1.3-0:i386 >>>>>>>>> libstartup-notification0:i386 >>>>>>>>> python3-problem-report:all >>>>>>>>> python3-apport:all >>>>>>>>> apport:all >>>>>>>>> apport-gtk:all >>>>>>>>> libfm-extra4:i386 >>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk-data:all >>>>>>>>> libfm-data:all >>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk4:i386 >>>>>>>>> libfm4:i386 >>>>>>>>> libfm-modules:i386 >>>>>>>>> upstart:i386 >>>>>>>>> upstart-bin:i386 >>>>>>>>> systemd-shim:i386 >>>>>>>>> binutils:i386 >>>>>>>>> cpp:i386 >>>>>>>>> gcc:i386 >>>>>>>>> g++:i386 >>>>>>>>> pcmanfm:i386 >>>>>>>>> lxshortcut:i386 >>>>>>>>> libitm1:i386 >>>>>>>>> libgomp1:i386 >>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9-base:i386 >>>>>>>>> libstdc++6:i386 >>>>>>>>> libasan1:i386 >>>>>>>>> libubsan0:i386 >>>>>>>>> libcilkrts5:i386 >>>>>>>>> libatomic1:i386 >>>>>>>>> libquadmath0:i386 >>>>>>>>> libgcc-4.9-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>> cpp-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>> g++-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>> libstdc++-4.9-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>> libgcc1:i386 >>>>>>>>> libpulse0:i386 >>>>>>>>> libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 >>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 15:00: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>>>>>>> What packages were upgraded on your system? >>>>>>>>>> Something like this command: >>>>>>>>>> awk '$3~/^upgrade$/ {print $4;}' /var/log/dpkg.log >>>>>>>>>> can get that info. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 03:52 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> The GUI has gone again after upgrades this week ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 2-9-2014 om 00:28: >>>>>>>>>>>> The upgrade received today on Lubuntu 14.10 has fully resolved >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> Nvida-304.123 works OK now. >>>>>>>>>>>> My thanks to the dev team. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 1-9-2014 om 00:26: >>>>>>>>>>>>> After purging driver NVIDIA-304 I got my desktop back with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> default nouveau driver. However opening Firefox rapidly >>>>>>>>>>>>> caused a >>>>>>>>>>>>> screen freeze. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The older NVIDIA-173 did the same after installing and >>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooting. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore switched back to NVIDIA-304.123 from the list and >>>>>>>>>>>>> again no >>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI... >>>>>>>>>>>>> So now I know (a) the absence of GUI was caused by the driver >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> (b) none of the recommended video drivers for Lubuntu 14.10 >>>>>>>>>>>>> beta can >>>>>>>>>>>>> be used on this Geforce 6100 card. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For Lubuntu 14.04 (and 14.10 alpha) the recommended >>>>>>>>>>>>> NVIDIA-304.117 >>>>>>>>>>>>> does not cause any problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
