On 11/17/2014 8:39 PM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
So, after working with Systemback and making distributable isos from
it, I'm pretty sure I can copy the files Systemback puts into the
syslinux folder of a live iso and believe this would work because the
DVDs made from Systemback isos boot without error.
However, the Systemback software has got me rethinking using Black Dog
Image Creator at all. I've still got some "personalizing" to do for
the C4C Lubuntu ReSpin, but here's what I'm liking about Systemback so
far:
1. The creation of a distributable "live" iso with Systemback is
incredibly easy, and they each boot in every 32-bit machine I've tried
them (burned on DVD) in.
2. Systemback has the ability to use Ubiquity, but claims to be able
to work with whatever bootloader I choose (would this then work with
Yaboot for PowerPC I wonder? I've yet to see if Systemback installs on
PPC).
3. The polished GUI of Systemback makes it a real visual treat to work
with (for a non-programmer like me) and because it's a great,
easy-to-use backup system too, I've got no problem including it for
the end-user.
4. They've overcome the 4GB iso limit! I've created several isos
larger than 4GB that are both live and successfully install a working
system too.
Eric Bradshaw
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I'm glad to see you are both pushing ahead with the exploration and
reporting on results. I'm very interested in the topic but have had
no time to invest so far. In fact, I'm farther back in the process,
and don't even know for sure what all the viable candidates are (and
does the list include OBI or gnome-disks aka Disks?)
Well, my viable candidates are likely different than yours. If I were
only setting up a bunch of computers myself and didn't provide our
respin to others as an iso, I would likely go with OBI. It beats any
other solution I'm familiar with for pure speed.
But I hear you saying that it's looking more and more like Systemback
could be a good replacement for Remastersys and B.D.I.C. You did say
earlier that "Distroshare Ubuntu Imager says it's based on Remastersys
and it looks like it took a bit from Black Lab Image Creator too, so
that's definitely my next script to try if the above doesn't work like
I think." Did you try that but then find Systemback to be superior?
Yes. But, superior is pretty subjective. It's different. And I likely
don't have the same requirements/goals as you (guessing). I don't even
have the same requirements I used to.
I liked Remastersys and later BLIC because it's basically just a big
shell script. I could see (some of) what it was doing and change
things to suit the needs of Computers4Christians. I had initially
gotten rid of the live option altogether because doubling what's in
skel (where you put things to make them end up in the user's Home
Folder) made it go over the 4GB iso limit and there was no need for
anyone to "try out" the distro anyway.
Can you say anything explicit about how Systemback treats user-level
or global settings. For instance, does it strip out all user accounts
and settings? Or certain ones? Or have an option to do so or not?
(Or does the documentation cover this question?)
I think Systemback strips out user-level settings automatically, but
has a check box to include them. I had in the past, included certain
settings in skel by including files and folders (usually hidden ones
that start with a dot like .mozilla and .xiphos). Systemback copies
everything from the Home Folder directly. The advantage for me would
be not having to worry that I've copied all the correct hidden
directories and files into skel to make the settings like I want
them. As far as I can tell, Systemback doesn't use skel at all.
The disadvantage I suppose would be taking a chance my personal info
would be included, but I've never used my own personal machine to make
our respin. Oh, and the documentation is nonexistent as far as I know.
I couldn't find more than a paragraph about any single feature.
On a related sort of question, for the more narrow purpose of
per-system full-installation backup, I'm also interested in how
Systemback or other candidates might serve for that.
If you are meaning will Systemback work for individual users to back
up their own computers; yes. I think it'll be great for that.
Systemback uses restore points (similar to what Windows does now as I
understand it) to create snapshots of the system so it can be restored
to that exact state/date if need be. I am new to that whole concept,
but really, really like it.
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Thanks Eric, this is a good orientation for me. I'm just approaching
the point where I'll need to go hands-on with this.
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