Did ctrl-space not work? That's the default, right? @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader On Mar 1, 2015 2:17 PM, "אלעד הן" <[email protected]> wrote:
> It seems the solution I gave you isn't a permanent one. I've found (with > the help of that friend) the method to make the change permanent in this > discussion: > http://askubuntu.com/questions/102344/switching-keyboard-layouts-in-lubuntu-11-10 > > It's a bit complicated but I'm copying it in hope that it will help others: > > > 1. > > Install the desired languages. > > $ gnome-language-selector > > 2. > > Create a shell script to execute setxkbmap after a delay and save it > in a convenient place. Running it in the background may speed up the login > process. Increase sleep time if needed. Replace "us, il" with your desired > language codes. > > $ echo '(sleep 2; setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -layout "us,il") > &' > ~/setxkbmap.sh > > 3. > > Make the script executable and verify that it works by toggling the > key combination Alt-Shift to switch language. > > $ chmod +x ~/setxkbmap.sh > $ ~/setxkbmap.sh > > 4. > > Create a .desktop file which executes the shell script just created. > Replace "username" with your username. > > $ echo '[Desktop Entry] > Type=Application > Name=Keyboard Language Switcher > Exec=/home/username/setxkbmap.sh > Icon=/usr/share/lxkeymap/media/icon.png > ' > ~/Desktop/setxkbmap.desktop > > 5. > > Logout and login again, then test by clicking on the new icon on your > desktop, then toggling Alt-Shift. > 6. > > Move the .desktop file to ~/.config/autostart > > $ mv ~/Desktop/setxkbmap.desktop ~/.config/autostart > > 7. > > Logout and login again, then test by toggling Alt-Shift. > > > > > > אלעד הן > נייד: 052-5348554 > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Of course, you should uninstall the Hebrew input method before doing this. >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן >> נייד: 052-5348554 >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok, a good friend, and far more knowledgeable than myself in the world >>> of linux, gave me the solution. >>> >>> He says he thinks the way Lubuntu switches between languages is the >>> source of the problem. >>> >>> He told me to run this command: >>> >>> *setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,il"* >>> >>> Now everything works wonderfully. >>> >>> How can I help lubuntu fix this problem? >>> >>> Thank all of you for your patience and your help. It makes even solving >>> problems a nice experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> אלעד הן >>> נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:33 PM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I tried it out in Gedit. LibreOffice still has the spellchecker. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> אלעד הן >>>> נייד: 052-5348554 >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Walter Lapchynski <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> מזל טוב ☺ >>>>> >>>>> What word processor? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > It worked! Thank you so much! >>>>> > >>>>> > The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell >>>>> checker, which >>>>> > I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to >>>>> get only >>>>> > the spell checker? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > אלעד הן >>>>> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run >>>>> >> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option >>>>> in >>>>> >> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where >>>>> >> > ibus-setup >>>>> >> > is... >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences >>>>> between US >>>>> >> > and >>>>> >> > Hebrew keyboards. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > אלעד הן >>>>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth >>>>> trying >>>>> >> >> with >>>>> >> >> both. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers >>>>> for >>>>> >> >> > the >>>>> >> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > אלעד הן >>>>> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the >>>>> >> >> >> `ibus-m17n` >>>>> >> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in >>>>> `ibus-setup`. I >>>>> >> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method >>>>> and was >>>>> >> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US >>>>> >> >> >> keyboard, >>>>> >> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺ >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> > Thank you very much. >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every >>>>> program and >>>>> >> >> >> > even >>>>> >> >> >> > in >>>>> >> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> >> > file manager). >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps. >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > I came across this bit of information: >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586 >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they >>>>> describe is >>>>> >> >> >> > the >>>>> >> >> >> > same >>>>> >> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution... >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > אלעד הן >>>>> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in >>>>> Israel][1] that >>>>> >> >> >> >> you >>>>> >> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have >>>>> >> >> >> >> probably >>>>> >> >> >> >> faced the same issue. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have >>>>> >> >> >> >> different >>>>> >> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the >>>>> hood" >>>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu >>>>> >> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful >>>>> to ask >>>>> >> >> >> >> in >>>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution >>>>> is. If >>>>> >> >> >> >> you >>>>> >> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an >>>>> >> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? >>>>> If >>>>> >> >> >> >> it's >>>>> >> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has >>>>> better >>>>> >> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package >>>>> >> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support >>>>> for >>>>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative >>>>> >> >> >> >> keyboard >>>>> >> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through >>>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man >>>>> >> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly >>>>> >> >> >> >> obvious, >>>>> >> >> >> >> so >>>>> >> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably >>>>> has your >>>>> >> >> >> >> solution. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular >>>>> >> >> >> >> application >>>>> >> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its >>>>> >> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make >>>>> that >>>>> >> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or >>>>> option >>>>> >> >> >> >> provides >>>>> >> >> >> >> the answer. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. >>>>> Sure >>>>> >> >> >> >> seems >>>>> >> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching >>>>> to >>>>> >> >> >> >> another >>>>> >> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see >>>>> you >>>>> >> >> >> >> can >>>>> >> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be >>>>> >> >> >> >> written >>>>> >> >> >> >> by >>>>> >> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, >>>>> referencing >>>>> >> >> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they >>>>> >> >> >> >> probably >>>>> >> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps >>>>> even >>>>> >> >> >> >> better, >>>>> >> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki >>>>> >> >> >> >> page][2]. >>>>> >> >> >> >> Good luck! >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/ >>>>> >> >> >> >> [2]: >>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to >>>>> understand >>>>> >> >> >> >> > most >>>>> >> >> >> >> > of >>>>> >> >> >> >> > what >>>>> >> >> >> >> > you said though :( >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux... >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in >>>>> >> >> >> >> > "preferences" >>>>> >> >> >> >> > and >>>>> >> >> >> >> > there >>>>> >> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant... >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > אלעד הן >>>>> >> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this >>>>> wrong >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> but >>>>> >> >> >> bare >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this >>>>> problem, but >>>>> >> >> >> although >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> I've >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a >>>>> solution. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit >>>>> version) on >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> my >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> old >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've >>>>> found the >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Keyboard >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched >>>>> to >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew. >>>>> >> >> >> This >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> means >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I >>>>> first >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> have >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> switch >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to >>>>> Hebrew. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> This >>>>> >> >> >> is a >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> very >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the >>>>> shortcuts >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> hardly >>>>> >> >> >> short. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this? >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554 >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad, >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is >>>>> mapped. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> The >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly. >>>>> Which >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> would >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> make >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes >>>>> 'C'? There >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> are >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> at >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> least >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right? >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> You may find something here: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/ >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, >>>>> though that >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> is >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> a >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> guess. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though. You >>>>> might >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> try >>>>> >> >> >> asking >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> in >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a >>>>> local >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Linux >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> User >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Group. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > -- >>>>> >> >> >> >> > Lubuntu-users mailing list >>>>> >> >> >> >> > [email protected] >>>>> >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>> >> >> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>>>> >> >> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>>>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>>>> >> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>>>> >> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>>>> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>>>> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>>>> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>>>> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>>>> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>>>> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>>>> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>>>> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>>>> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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