On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:12 PM Walter Lapchynski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I didn't think this is related because GIMP had a major upgrade. But, > GIMP > > became very unstable for me (similar random freezing; kill it, start > > again). > > Could be related if say it's somehow a GTK issue. Is this only in the > file picker or is this within the normal GIMP? The GIMP crashes are random (while color-balancing, contrast-brightness adjusting, etc.). It seems similar to the pcmanfm crash because it manifests itself when I click (and realize it's frozen). I might click to increase/decrease the brightness (in the midst of playing with those values before applying them). > The one problem with debugging tools is that you generally have to have > them running and building up logs of activity while you try to reproduce > the issue. Well, that's not normally a problem, but with one where you > don't have a clear process to reproduce the issue, you may have to wait > a long time, which might mean a huge log file. > I'm running strace now. In case anyone else is having crashes and wants to do this too: pidof pcmanfm kill <pid from previous command> strace -Ff -tt pcmanfm --desktop 2>&1 | tee strace-pcmanfm.log I didn't add the "&disown" parm to the pcmanfm command being straced. It seemed clearer to let it remain attached to strace. I could have straced the already running/disowned pcmanfm using its PID[1]. That might be simpler. But, killing pcmanfm and starting it with strace might capture the console output in a way tracing the pid wouldn't(?). I use my laptop casually. I can manually rotate the log file. (Or, schedule an hourly cron job to do it.). Now, It's just a matter of time till I have some strace info. I'll post to the bug report when I have something. (Sidenote: For a long time these pcmanfm crashes were causing a "program crashed, would you like to send a crash report?" dialog. I always assumed someone was getting those (probably from lots of users) and divining something from it. I haven't seen that dialog for awhile. I've forgotten if I clicked something saying "never ask again." There was even a time when I thought someone was trying to fix it because after an automatic update, it seemed like the desktop restarted itself. Then it went back to me having to open a terminal and start it manually.). [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace , see the pidof example.
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