You are right, no need to add Nutch to the proposal then.

Otis

--- Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:43 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> > Sounds ok to me.  There is no mention of Nutch, though.  If Nutch
> is
> > going through Incubator with its own proposal, maybe we need to say
> > that.
> > Let's give time developers in other time zones to add themselves to
> the
> > list.
> 
> Sam Ruby recommended that we not emphasize making search.apache.org
> an 
> umbrella project:
> 
> Sam Ruby had the following advice:
> 
> >> The board has a bias against self-referential definitions (the
> 'foo' 
> >> project is for managing software related to the 'foo' project - 
> >> believe it or not, this happens all too often).  So naming the 
> >> proposed project something like search is a good idea.
> >>
> >> The board tends to prefer projects whose scopes don't overlap with
> 
> >> other projects.  That does not appear to be a problem here.  In
> other 
> >> cases, this involves highlighting differences in technical
> approaches 
> >> taken by two "competing" projects.
> >>
> >> Finally, some members of the board have a strong bias against 
> >> umbrella projects.  My advice here is to not emphasize this aspect
> of 
> >> the proposal.  Overall, the fact that this reduces the size of the
> 
> >> Jakarta project umbrella, those with this bias will be happy.
> 
> While I'm confident that Nutch will be accepted for incubation and
> then 
> migrate out of incubation, this is not a done deal.  We have a 
> compelling reason to bring Lucene to TLP without Nutch.  Nutch has a 
> compelling reason to incubate without worrying about its future home 
> (which theoretically could be under Jakarta or Lucene (though of
> course 
> search.apache.org is where its aimed).
> 
>       Erik
> 
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