>> Commit mails on markmail.org still show mostly "just" Marvin. >> Or what am I missing? > > Commits aren't the only sign of community. They also aren't the only > sustaining thing you need. You need: > > * VOTEs > * discussion emails > * JIRA threads > * release managers > * documentation writers, etc.
These things you need on top, indeed :) > I've seen Peter, David, Nathan, Joe (S.) and a host of other folks > contribute. That's all and great but this falls down as soon as Marvin (for whatever reason) would be gone. Graduation is also about build a sustainable community - not a single person doing the coding. And frankly speaking I am lurking on the dev list and didn't see that many discussion emails. As much as I would love to see lucy graduate I still think it's not ready. > And committers != PMC != community. nitpicking: whether committers != PMC depends on the project, it's the same for some projects > The VOTE is to decide on whether or not Lucy has: > > * elected new (P)PMC members > * shown that it can govern itself > * made releases > * vetted its licenses > * operated in the Apache way > > I'd say it has. Well, and I am saying this is not a diverse community - which also one of the goals of incubation. A single person committing on a TLP is not quite the Apache way I know. Frankly - I don't understand the rush. cheers, Torsten
