Microsoft has no right to decide for the industry what is good or bad for 
it. If they feel that their software is soo good and that they want to 
keep shut thats OK, let them be but to try and force others to do their 
bidding is absolutely wrong. As an example look at the auto industry. 
Wouldn't Mercedes sell you  a car with the hood tightly shut and sealed, 
with all the bolts welded shut with some straneg chemical that can only be 
opened by a Mercedes dealer. But no they sell you a car that can be 
modified and completely retuned by renown shops like AMG.

And look who is talking about business sense... remember a company called 
Netscape that used to sell a browser (the worlds best at the time), who 
run them out of business. Isn't it the same Microsoft that started giving 
away its internet explorer free just so that it could muscle Netscape out 
of the way. Why is it at that time that they did not think about the 
so-called biz terms?

So gentlemen let Microsoft shut their traps and let open source be. If it 
wasn't for the gaining popularity of open software do you think Microsoft 
would have made an effort to improve windows security? no... and we all 
know that with the kind of financial muscle they have the only way to 
unseat or compete favorably with them  is to come up with a product that 
is significantly cheaper than theirs and much better at that. And how else 
would you achieve this objective without getting thousands of volunteers 
to work on your product other than through open source.

And yes some of the OSS advocates actually do sell supported products that 
they create. (does sendmail switch ring a bell to you?)

Regards

CN





"Patrick Ssesanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The M$ guy is absolutely right! If software is to remain an industry then 
it has to operate like all other industries - NEVER GIVE AWAY YOUR PRODUCT 
FOR FREE. Let us not forget that source code is to this industry what 
goods are to other industries. 
And in biz terms I cannot see any of you here telling your clients or 
bosses for that matter how to do the work you do, for your knowledge is 
the product you sell in the service industry! If you did you would render 
youtself irrelevant! 
The best thing we need to do is negotiate better sales terms of these 
software products! And this comes through competetion in the traditional 
industries. I can imagine the guys developing software even on this list 
have a similar opinion! =:)
If the so called OSS advocates had competetive products on the market they 
would on the other side of the fence!!!! swell!!!
thnx.
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:05:38 +0300 

But the question is, the secret of success to who? The user, or the 
software 
vendor? 

Regards, 

Mark Tinka - CCNA 
Network Engineer, Africa Online Uganda 

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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:53 AM 
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Subject: lug_: Never show source code, senior Microsoft man says 


http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10058 

Best Quote: 

A SENIOR VP at Microsoft has told an e-commerce conference in Brazil that 
his firm thinks open source is destroying the software industry. 

Craig Mundie, senior VP at Microsoft, told the conference in S�o Paulo 
yesterday, the secret to success in software is "never show the source". 



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