[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Guys > > Talking of poverty, I had a very eye opening lecture while on a visit > to the Robben Islands in Cape town recently. Our guide, a former > Robben Islands inmate gave us details of how poverty was used as a > weapon to suppress the black brothers down there. The effect of 400 > years of a deliberate poverty promotion policy are not about to be > washed away soon. Seems to explain the rampant crime in that place. > > I am meant to understand that Mandela inherited a government with a > debt of upto 400bn dollars imagine !!!! > > So Joseph in a way I agree with you. Poverty is a very serious man > made strategy.
This was exactly the case in Somalia. Remember 'Black Hawk Down'? > > Wire > >> The costliest man-made tragedy is poverty...how many have died from >> Malaria ONLY....the AK-47 problems stem from, yes, poverty. >> >> A correlation has been found between a country's standard of living >> and its propensity to engage in war(s) (okay, America is different >> because of the cow boys). >> >> Joe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:44 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy >> >> >> >> My take on this is that perhaps the costliest man-made tragedy of all >> time was the invention of the AK-47 >> >> ...................................................................... >> .. ................ >> >> Simon S. Kaggwa >> >> Network Administrator(Routing / E. Mgt Systems) >> >> MTN Uganda Ltd >> >> Tel: +25677212622; Fax: +25678212288 >> >> ...................................................................... >> .. ................ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:16 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: lug_: OT: Costliest Man-Made Tragedy >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> You went far enough...:) >> >> While this holds truth, just because someone never took the time to >> >> quantify, or at least, guesstimate the effect of the >> Hiroshima/Nagasaki >> >> bombings had on the world, or even the effect the outbreak of SARS >> had in >> >> that and other regions, effects of such on tourism, flights, work >> e.t.c., >> >> doesn't mean that they could have been any less than the effects of >> 9/11. >> >> In Hong Kong, people don't even touch public escalator or stair rails >> >> anymore, people don't shake hands, people hardly go to the hospitals >> as >> >> medical staff could be infected with SARS. Can you quantify the >> effect of >> >> that on Hong Kong, much less, the global economy? >> >> The problem here seems to be, that while Americans are valid to take >> more >> >> pride and precedence on their own affairs and problems, doesn't mean >> we >> >> should join them with blind eyes. As spectators, I believe we have >> the >> >> bird's eye view of what we think the most disastrous man-made >> caualties are. >> >> Look at aircraft; millions of lives have been lost since the >> inception of >> >> powered, controlled and sustained flight. More than 60% of the >> aircraft in >> >> today's skies are manufactured in the USA, others in other parts of >> Europe. >> >> Can you buy a single person's life for even $30 billion. Boeing, >> Airbus, >> >> Fokker, Jetstream, BAE, Gulfstream, Dassault, Cessna, CFM, Snecma, >> Rolls >> >> Royce, Pratt & Whitney e.t.c. are all man-made aviation companies >> building >> >> man-made aviation technology that causes man-made aviation death. If >> one >> >> person isn't even worth $30 billion, how about the millions that >> have died >> >> from airplane accidents (notwithstanding, the fact that a >> trans-continental >> >> jet aircraft is anywhere between $80 million and $200 million, a >> piece)? And >> >> then man still has some balance left in the kitty, to take manned >> space >> >> ships to Mars in a decade. >> >> The bombings in Kenya and Tanzania claimed thousands of lives, and >> had far >> >> worse rippling effects (new US embassy built in Uganda and the >> region, >> >> imposing higher security, less accessible US visas and associated >> effects on >> >> Ugandans wishing to travel, e.t.c). But just because these effects >> aren't >> >> quanitfiable, doesn't mean they don't have a (long-term) financial >> effect on >> >> the whole world. >> >> I hope we are not losing the plot :). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Quoting Kabagambe Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> >> >>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:20:44AM +0300, Mark Tinka wrote: >> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>>>>> It is simple. These are American lives we are talking about, not >> >>>>>> simple Japanese people. Over a million Vietnamese died in the >> >>>>>> Vietnam war - besides Vietnam being carpet bombed for I do not >> >>>>>> know how many years... but again it was cheaper. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> T. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Over a million you say... And, ummh, 9/11 was how many... Over 300 >> >>>>> confirmed and another 4,000 or so missing. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ----Original Message Follows---- >> >>>>>> locations, ecnomically, socially, and in health. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> How can that be quanitified, in billions, if not gazillions? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Firstly, Americans treasure their blood more that most >>>> nationalities >> >>>> I know.Whenever an american is wounded or killed in the middle east >> >>>> or some other conflict area, it is sure to make the news, that >>>> means >> >>>> CNN->BBC->Reuters-(spill over effect)->New Vision->Your desk. So >> >>>> this, to Americans,is personal. The reason why that attack was the >> >>>> costliest is because of the spill-over effects to the rest of the >> >>>> world.Besides causing a financial crisis in the US that spilled >>>> over >> >>>> to Japan, Europe and england,resulting in massive losses in >> >>>> stocks and bonds, it has led to countries shifting their priorities >> >>>> from development to fighting terrorism.This is >> >>>> very expensive .This is an ongoing fight as Rumsdel will tell >> >>>> you,but that means that the economy of Kenya which depends on >> >>>> tourism will have to go into noise dive, countries that used to >> >>>> enjoy excellent trading cooperations with the US are force to >>>> address >> >>>> conditions that the US imposes on them before trade agreements can >>>> be >> >>>> made.The middle east flared into allout war, with >> >>>> sides being aligned pro- and anti- war on terrorism.i stop here. >> >>>> - ken >> >>>> (not a politician) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --------------------------------------------- >> >>>> This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >> >>> This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------- >> >>> This service is hosted on the Infocom network >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Tinka >> >> Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> >> http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug Regards, Mark Tinka Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland --------------------------------------------- This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
