Believe you me, my experience with Suse 10.1 would have left any new user shocked about how to get Linux working. I had to come up with a few hacks just to get the interface operational. SuseForums has loads of complaints from many other users too about 10.1 and network cards. One of the most complained about cards is 3com 905 card with many people being told to resort to getting other cards. What a shame.
However for now, its still the next best thing I can give a customer otherwise slackware wouldnt be a bad try. Wire > Mandrake Made Better GUI tools that SUSE in any case, i dont hear > anyone complaining about them. The issue he raises here is valid as > per cloning of boxes suse creates interfaces and devices using machine > specific names such as the mac address of the network card of course > you understand that when you clone that to an identical box it is not > going to work. > > Well you may have never experienced nightmare with suse tools, but > believe me i have had Yast break so many times. > > On 9/7/06, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think the issue is that SuSE develops great tools - which are meant to >> eliminate the need for the CLI. >> >> I've never had problems with X on SuSE, or yast overwriting my settings, >> or >> any of the other issues mentioned on this thread! And I've used it on >> old >> machines, brand new machines, servers, desktops, etc. >> >> >> >> On 9/7/06, andrew colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I agree suse/novell is a distro for point and click slakers. Although >> > for large deployments they would ask you to use thier deployment >> > (zenworks) tool for that which they "claim it works and makes admin >> > easy" >> > >> > On 9/6/06, Francis Musinguzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > EBM, >> > > >> > > >> > > Yes Yes and many more. As a "large scale" distro implementor I've >> had >> > > problems with implementing SuSE 10.0 on more than one machine. >> Imagine a >> > > situaton where by 54 boxes have just been cloned and I discover that >> U >> can't >> > > access the net and can't switch from graphical to tty without having >> to >> > > restart. I had to manually configure each network card and restrict >> use >> to X >> > > only, for now. >> > > >> > > >> > > But before U decide to write SuSE off consider what it is meant for >> as a >> > > distro. >> > > >> > > >> > > - Quick, shiny and easy Interface. >> > > - Centralized administration (yast)**. >> > > - Targets mainstream instead of developers. - ++ >> > > >> > > >> > > It was meant to be deployed and left alone, not tweaked daily. That >> is >> why I >> > > recommend SuSE for companies and beginers who would like to just >> know >> what >> > > Linux is all about. The rest of us should just stick to the command >> and >> > > tweak-oriented distros like fedora. As more capable machines are >> developed, >> > > heavier and more resource intensive systems are developed, so if >> U're >> using >> > > SuSE 10.2 on a 128Mb RAM box, be prepared for a shock. >> > > >> > > >> > > FRANCIS >> > > >> > > >> > > Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) writes: >> > > >> > > >> > > Hari Kurup wrote the following on 09/04/2006 10:40 AM: >> > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote: >> > > >> > > I use FC5. (and previously, SuSE - but migrated to FC after i >> noticed >> > > that SuSE forces me to work in a certain way i dont like !) >> > > >> > > Which way is that? >> > > >> > > >> > > by the time i was using 9.3, i didnt like the following: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - yast overwrites config files i have edited by hand without >> > > creating a backup >> > > - no good network connection manager. changing networks meant >> > > one has to manually edit network configs, or use the very >> > > unreliable "kinternet", which does not even have an option >> > > to save custom profiles >> > > - dhcp client implementation was crappy. one could get 'partial' >> > > network settings from a dhcp server (eg, an IP address, but >> > > no gateway, or dns servers). Although there is an option of >> > > getting way round this in the relevant config file, yast could >> > > easily ovewrite that file again (see bullet 1 above) :( >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - it was too heavy and slow on my laptoy. the same >> > > laptop with fc5 boots in less than half the time it took suse, >> > > lasts longer on the same battery, apps start much faster, etc >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > anyway, plus lots of other many nuances..! (like a "KDE" which is >> > > a bit hard to upgrade, else, some intergrated apps like 'noatun, >> > > or amarok will start misbehaving). >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > e >> > > >> > > LUG mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > > >> > > >> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including >> > > attachments if any). 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