I am a bit surprised to read the negative response on the SuSE
distro. I am using it for 5 years now and with great satisfaction. I
like to Yast as a tool but I am really enthusiastic about the
completeness of the distro. On the CD'd/DVD you have all that you
need (as developer, user and administrator) and this make it very
useful when you have only have limited internet access. Ubuntu for
example gives you only a very limited amount of tools and internet is
your friend when you want to extend. However if your relationship
with this friend is not so good (e.g. you a slow connection and/or a
ugandan ISP), you are stuck.
Unlike what James mentions, we (at Uganda Martyrs University /
EACOSS) have very little trouble with the installation of SuSE. All
runs very smooth and the visual environment for the installation is
nice and professional. I my opinion superior to all other distro's I
know (especially disto's like Debian and Slackware). We have
installed hundreds of machines of all types and ages.
I think it is a matter of taste, experience and habit. It may be a
bit as with cars. Personally I do not like German cars (VW, BMW,
Mercedes). They are nice but the seats are hard and the suspension
stiff. Also I learned to drive in a French car, nice Citroen and you
get used to the fact that the indicator (previously) had to be
switched off manually after the corner. Now, still, I never recommend
people a German car and I drive a Japanese car since its behavior on
the road is like a French one. A similar thing I find with the
Desktop environments. KDE, Gnome, OSX, Enlightenment, IceWM, to
mention a few, all do the job, but you have your preference. People
who are trained in Windows normally prefer KDE (that is why we
selected this at the university), Mac users normally feel more
comfortable with Gnome and the real techies take a minimal window
manager like enlightenment of IceWM to get the max speed from their
computer. Of course there are also people who do not use a WM,
because the command line is rich enough.
BTW. OpenSuSE can be downloaded for Free (like in free beer). You can
keep your $70 for buying a nice present for your wife/girl friend/
husband/boy friend.
BTW2: I have no stakes in SuSE.
victor
On 8 Sep 2006, at 13:17, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote:
In general (reading from what everyone here says about SuSE), it may
not be worth paying the 70 USD for.
Go for a free distro, besides, they will all have one issue or
another.
rgds
ernest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following on 09/08/2006 09:16 AM:
Believe you me, my experience with Suse 10.1 would have left any
new user
shocked about how to get Linux working. I had to come up with a
few hacks
just to get the interface operational. SuseForums has loads of
complaints
from many other users too about 10.1 and network cards. One of the
most
complained about cards is 3com 905 card with many people being
told to
resort to getting other cards. What a shame.
However for now, its still the next best thing I can give a customer
otherwise slackware wouldnt be a bad try.
Wire
Mandrake Made Better GUI tools that SUSE in any case, i dont hear
anyone complaining about them. The issue he raises here is valid as
per cloning of boxes suse creates interfaces and devices using
machine
specific names such as the mac address of the network card of course
you understand that when you clone that to an identical box it is
not
going to work.
Well you may have never experienced nightmare with suse tools, but
believe me i have had Yast break so many times.
On 9/7/06, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the issue is that SuSE develops great tools - which are
meant to
eliminate the need for the CLI.
I've never had problems with X on SuSE, or yast overwriting my
settings,
or
any of the other issues mentioned on this thread! And I've used
it on
old
machines, brand new machines, servers, desktops, etc.
On 9/7/06, andrew colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree suse/novell is a distro for point and click slakers.
Although
for large deployments they would ask you to use thier deployment
(zenworks) tool for that which they "claim it works and makes
admin
easy"
On 9/6/06, Francis Musinguzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
EBM,
Yes Yes and many more. As a "large scale" distro implementor I've
had
problems with implementing SuSE 10.0 on more than one machine.
Imagine a
situaton where by 54 boxes have just been cloned and I
discover that
U
can't
access the net and can't switch from graphical to tty without
having
to
restart. I had to manually configure each network card and
restrict
use
to X
only, for now.
But before U decide to write SuSE off consider what it is
meant for
as a
distro.
- Quick, shiny and easy Interface.
- Centralized administration (yast)**.
- Targets mainstream instead of developers. - ++
It was meant to be deployed and left alone, not tweaked daily.
That
is
why I
recommend SuSE for companies and beginers who would like to just
know
what
Linux is all about. The rest of us should just stick to the
command
and
tweak-oriented distros like fedora. As more capable machines are
developed,
heavier and more resource intensive systems are developed, so if
U're
using
SuSE 10.2 on a 128Mb RAM box, be prepared for a shock.
FRANCIS
Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) writes:
Hari Kurup wrote the following on 09/04/2006 10:40 AM:
On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote:
I use FC5. (and previously, SuSE - but migrated to FC after i
noticed
that SuSE forces me to work in a certain way i dont like !)
Which way is that?
by the time i was using 9.3, i didnt like the following:
- yast overwrites config files i have edited by hand without
creating a backup
- no good network connection manager. changing networks meant
one has to manually edit network configs, or use the very
unreliable "kinternet", which does not even have an option
to save custom profiles
- dhcp client implementation was crappy. one could get 'partial'
network settings from a dhcp server (eg, an IP address, but
no gateway, or dns servers). Although there is an option of
getting way round this in the relevant config file, yast could
easily ovewrite that file again (see bullet 1 above) :(
- it was too heavy and slow on my laptoy. the same
laptop with fc5 boots in less than half the time it took suse,
lasts longer on the same battery, apps start much faster, etc
anyway, plus lots of other many nuances..! (like a "KDE" which is
a bit hard to upgrade, else, some intergrated apps like 'noatun,
or amarok will start misbehaving).
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