If you understand any of those words, that is, of course. As said, I live in a 
different OSI layer. I read XML and write and install some software from time 
to time. Sometimes i even write documents in plain english.

Please bear with me while i ask these stupid questions.

In the end, the problem is not how to calculate a CIDR prefix length (i really 
had to google that), the problem is what the most accurate way is to tell if 
a website visitor is coming from Uganda or not, excluding VSAT. For this I 
would like to find a source that is 
1. accurate, 
2 easily updateable. 
From what i understand now, Maxmind definitly qualifies for 2 (once its 
configured, just download the .dat file every month). However, I am not sure 
yet, about its accuracy.

Lets look at the delta between the afrinic list and Maxmind:

This is what Maxmind has, and afrinic has not:
62.12.40.96     62.12.40.103    emperion.net SE
63.103.129.0    63.103.129.255  ??
69.36.44.112    69.36.44.119    This is bou.or.ug Traffic is not going via the 
UIXP 
80.255.40.0     80.255.40.7     Intelsat
80.255.40.84    80.255.40.191   more Intelsat
81.199.16.0     81.199.31.255   ??
83.229.48.144   83.229.48.151   sky-vision.net
193.219.221.48  193.219.221.63  taide.net 
194.153.153.0   194.153.153.127 ripe.net 
196.201.144.32  196.201.144.255 iwayafrica.com

This is what afrinic has and Maxmind has not:

212.88.96.0/19 
or (eh, this calculation is really difficult, and probably wrong):
212.88.96.0     212.88.96.31    mtn.co.ug

So, while the Maxmind database seems suitable for things like add-delivery, 
the afrinic list seems indeed to be the more accurate in telling if an IP is 
connected to the IX or not. (if you work out what the stuff behind the / 
means ;-)

Though i still dont know if the afrinic list is also the list that is in the 
routers where its decided which traffic goes up the satelite, and which stays 
here.

For now i will opt for using the afrinic list in my .htaccess files, and http 
redirects. Asking the user where he is, has proven not to be reliable, and i 
run a server, not a network, so doing advanced routing stuff is also out of 
the question.

Thanx for all the feedback. If you are interested in the .htaccess file, let 
me know and i will post it.

rgds,
reinier






(now, for people who also dont know how these subnets work exacltly, i did 
some surfing to see if i could understand. I found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork about subnets 
and even the table at the bottom of this page bout a /20 subnet
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn5000/sw/sw60/configuration/guide/IPAddr.html





On Saturday 17 November 2007 13:22:22 Ernest - (AfriNIC) wrote:
> >> I posted the list of afrinic IP's before, and one of the subnets they 
assign 
> >> to uganda is 41.220.0.0. 
> > 
> > This should be 41.220.0.0/20 not the entire /16.
> > That is why I advised you to use the web interface, Mr. Battenberg.
> 
> If he insists on using the ftp stats, they contain the "network" address
> and a "host count". Other parameters like CIDR prefix length or subnet
> mask can then easily be deduced.
> 
> eb
> 



-- 
rgds,

Reinier Battenberg
Director
Mountbatten Ltd.
+256 782 801 749
www.mountbatten.net
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