Hi Peter, 

You are very right that messing with drivers and hardware is very annoying. 
But did you know that Ubuntu supports far more hardware than windows out of 
the box? Not to mention the super-easy way of installing any of the 22.000 
software packages available.

I installed an XP machine from scratch a few times, and finding all the 
drivers for them also required more skills than your average mother-in-law 
would have.

The hardware story is changing very fast these days, Even the 2 graphics-card 
producers are now releasing their drivers as opensource. It wont take long 
before your hardware is fully supported on linux the day it is released, and 
you get a linux driver on the CD that comes with the hardware. 


rgds,

Reinier Battenberg
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On Monday 10 November 2008 15:34:26 Peter van Bussel wrote:
>  "Branding is one of the biggest challenges Linux faces." Well, my biggest
> problem is to install hardware and software...and as long as this is not
> working properly I can't use my Linux installation and thus can't promote
> it.
>
>  Just as an example: I've spend days trying to install a cannon scanner, a
> cannon printer and an HP printer. All three relatively common pieces of
> equipment. I failed myself and then had two times a linux users at my place
> to help. However, both of them also failed and it still doesn't work.
> Regarding installing software: with windows I, as an ordinary user, just
> click the .exe file and 99 times out of a 100 it works immediately. There
> is no hastle with missing, finding and installing packages and dependencies
> or the use of the terminal and it's commands. Now, from my own experience,
> I think to be able to promote Linux and have ordinary windows people to
> learn using it, the starting point will be to use the terms and language
> that these windows users understand and to package software and the
> installation of hardware in a "windows" manner. I know that a lot has been
> done already but there still seems to be a long way to go.
>
>  Peter
>
>  Wire James wrote on 10/11/2008 11:54:
>  On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:41 +0300, Simon Vass wrote:
> I also think
> there is the power of branding going on here.
>
>  Spot on Vass. I agree with you on this. Branding is one of the biggest
> challenges Linux faces. I remember having to learn OS2 forcefully simply
> because it was an IBM thing and if you really wanted to retain a job or be
> noticed as IBM compliant, knowledge of it was paramount. When it comes to
> Linux, people expect the reverse.
>
>  Wire
> People will spend time
> learning Windows and MAC OS X where as it's Linux they throw there hands
> in the air and give up. Admittedly this is probably because when they
> get stuck who do they ask? A friend, A neighbor and invariably the
> response is Whats Linux? You should have got a MAC or used Vista!
>
>
>
> Simon
>
> Mark Tinka wrote:
> > On Monday 10 November 2008 16:07:11 joseph mpora wrote:
> >> So why would a new user adjust easier to a Mac than to
> >> Linux?
> >
> > You surely do know how to start a war, Joseph...
> >
> > But, I think OS X is more intuitive, from a lay-user
> > perspective, than Linux is; and that's why I think users
> > would adopt faster to OS X if they decided to dump Windows,
> > than if they chose Linux.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------


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