can any one help me connect my susse11 to infocom am finding problems connecting to it DOUGLAS WERE BSC.COMPUTER SCIENCE
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 1:52:29 PM Subject: LUG Digest, Vol 63, Issue 76 Send LUG mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Certification vs Experience (Markus A. Wipfler) 2. Re: linux.or.ug (Simon Vass) 3. Re: Certification vis Experience (Richard Okuti) 4. Yahoo Traffic (Proxy) Server (Emmanuel Mulo) 5. Re: linux.or.ug (Hari Kurup) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:43:57 +0300 From: "Markus A. Wipfler" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, how about extending the question: Certification vs Experience vs Degree. Would you hire someone with no degree but sufficient experience and probably some certifications, over someone who has a BCS or BTEC? Regards -- Markus On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Richard Mikisa wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM, joachim Gwoke > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Besides am wondering how a non-certified person gets passed Human >> resource. >> > I University Degree will get you past HR in most cases, but in most > cases especially here in UG, it might count for nothing in terms of > ability to deliver. By certification, I think guys here mean industry > certifications like Cisco and Juniper Certs. > -- > cheers > Richard > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible > for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2423 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20091130/ed64a5b8/smime.bin ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:25:12 +0300 (EAT) From: Simon Vass <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] linux.or.ug To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <20865073.211259573072441.javamail.sv...@etechadmin-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sorry can't see it from my window ;-) Simon Vass Technical Manager E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Tinka" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: "Simon Vass" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2009 11:17:59 GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [LUG] linux.or.ug On Monday 30 November 2009 04:07:50 pm Simon Vass wrote: > Can confirm Infocom also on VSAT backup, does indeed look > like the fibre took a tumble this morning. Anybody know where the cut is? Submarine access appears to still exist into Nairobi: Access Kenya: [ti...@nms ~]$ traceroute -I www.accesskenya.com traceroute to www.accesskenya.com (196.200.16.33), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets 1 ge-2-0-11.edge-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (124.158.236.61) 0.386 ms 0.227 ms 0.147 ms 2 ge-0-1-0-0.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.210.129) 0.659 ms 0.524 ms 0.677 ms 3 ge-0-1-0-0.br-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.211.254) 0.820 ms 0.836 ms 0.664 ms 4 so-2-3-1.sin11.ip4.tinet.net (213.254.227.245) 7.058 ms 6.911 ms 6.844 ms 5 xe-1-0-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.187.185) 184.524 ms 184.605 ms xe-0-0-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.187.181) 184.560 ms 6 gi9-1.palcr3.PaloAlto.opentransit.net (193.251.250.237) 254.055 ms 256.682 ms 261.579 ms 7 * * * 8 tengige0-9-0-0.nyktr1.NewYork.opentransit.net (193.251.128.37) 255.209 ms 255.247 ms 255.177 ms 9 pos0-1-5-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net (193.251.243.106) 264.557 ms 270.522 ms 264.510 ms 10 te1-1.lonse1.London.opentransit.net (193.251.129.70) 271.507 ms 271.307 ms 271.475 ms 11 * * * 12 TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com (196.207.31.146) 439.212 ms 438.781 ms 440.133 ms 13 bp-cr-core-datacenter.accesskenya.com (196.207.31.70) 438.879 ms 439.106 ms 439.514 ms 14 smtpin-33.accesskenya.com (196.200.16.33) 439.815 ms 439.128 ms 439.391 ms [ti...@nms ~]$ Wananchi: [ti...@nms ~]$ traceroute -I www.wananchi.com traceroute to www.wananchi.com (62.8.88.6), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets 1 ge-2-0-11.edge-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (124.158.236.61) 0.387 ms 0.215 ms 0.147 ms 2 ge-0-1-0-0.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.210.129) 0.661 ms 0.673 ms 0.676 ms 3 ge-0-1-0-0.cr-gw-2-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.211.130) 0.663 ms 0.673 ms 0.822 ms 4 pos-2-0.cr-gw-2-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net (61.11.210.10) 8.620 ms 7.544 ms 7.372 ms 5 ge-0-3.cr-gw-1-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net (124.158.224.97) 7.369 ms 7.223 ms 7.839 ms 6 ge-0-1-0-0.br-gw-2-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net (124.158.224.189) 7.370 ms 7.857 ms 7.995 ms 7 203.208.143.141 (203.208.143.141) 94.322 ms 9.095 ms 7.996 ms 8 ge-0-1-8-0.sngtp-dr1.ix.singtel.com (203.208.151.185) 31.395 ms 8.476 ms ge-1-1-7-0.sngtp-dr2.ix.singtel.com (203.208.151.197) 9.246 ms 9 ge-2-1-0-0.sngtp-ar6.ix.singtel.com (203.208.183.202) 8.315 ms ge-3-1-0-0.sngtp-ar6.ix.singtel.com (203.208.183.206) 8.637 ms ge-0-1-0-0.sngtp-ar6.ix.singtel.com (203.208.154.9) 10.190 ms 10 203.208.152.146 (203.208.152.146) 38.890 ms 203.208.152.141 (203.208.152.141) 38.746 ms so-3-0-0-0.hkgcw-cr3.ix.singtel.com (203.208.151.30) 42.178 ms 11 203.208.152.129 (203.208.152.129) 39.207 ms 203.208.152.37 (203.208.152.37) 39.044 ms 203.208.152.129 (203.208.152.129) 41.076 ms 12 ge13-48.br01.hkg04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.252.105) 43.103 ms 43.414 ms 43.724 ms 13 bharti.pos11-0.cr02.sin02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.165.214) 42.963 ms 44.042 ms 42.474 ms 14 AES-Static-161.36.144.59.airtel.in (59.144.36.161) 229.676 ms 231.040 ms 230.523 ms 15 AES-Static-130.36.144.59.airtel.in (59.144.36.130) 229.808 ms 230.861 ms 230.866 ms 16 dsl-del-static-002.45.246.61.airtelbroadband.in (61.246.45.2) 396.294 ms 396.652 ms 396.699 ms 17 g1-0-2.cr01.ke-nbi.wananchi.com (41.212.1.106) 396.481 ms 396.354 ms 396.751 ms 18 F0-0-16.DC1.ke-nbi.wananchi.com (41.212.1.94) 399.673 ms 399.051 ms 397.538 ms 19 xserve.wananchi.com (62.8.88.6) 397.356 ms 397.487 ms 401.298 ms [ti...@nms ~]$ Cheers, Mark. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:02:03 +0300 From: Richard Okuti <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vis Experience To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Interesting discussion, In my humble opinion I believe both certification and experience are very important and that is the reason we at EACOSS have taken the certification issue very seriously and are selling it as a service. As an employer, there are many challenges when it comes to IT and they get worse if you are not an IT person, so if some one has a certification with a reputation that means the person has certain knowledge and follows some kind of standards that all people with similar or the same certification follow. You will realize that many of us jump into IT from very different professions, I for instance trained in accounts decided to sell IT from the moment I finished college, what happens now is that I have a very high level of understanding in the use of IT but can only say this through my experience which I claim to have, imagine I had a reputable certification to back this up! I therefore believe certification and experience are complementary and the Interview will then crown it all, especially when it is practical and some IT people are part of the panel. My fifty cents... Richard -- East African Center for Open Source Software General Manager - East Africa & Zambia Plot 9 - 21 Port Bell Road Nakawa P. O. Box 26192 Kampala - Uganda Telephone +256 414 223802 Mobile +256 772 725252 "The new ICT Advisory, Innovations & Training Centre" 2009/11/29 Bernard Wanyama <[email protected]> > Daniel, > > In all cases, you need to interview the fellows and decide who meets > your requirements. > Beyond the interview, you need to set certification targets for your > employees and support them if finances allow. > > That way, after two years, you have people with certification and > experience. Then you get ready to start afresh. > > Kind regards, > Bernard > > > 2009/11/29 Mark Tinka <[email protected]>: > > On Saturday 28 November 2009 09:39:14 pm Daniel Bwente > > wrote: > > > >> I do agree from the HR / Employer perspective there are > >> many variables to consider as you rightly put it, how > >> about from the employee / Young Sister side, what would > >> you have them put emphasis on as they pursue and build a > >> career in ICT, What career guidance should we bequeath > >> them? > > > > My recommendation would be to continue reading as you work. > > I cannot explicitly prefer one over the other. They > > compliment each other greatly. > > > > For instance, experience might teach a network engineer to > > configure OSPF or IS-IS without issue assuming default > > Ethernet interface configurations on routers. However, what > > the engineer might not know is that when he tries to fix an > > MTU problem for a customer on a transit core interface (by > > changing the physical interface MTU from the Ethernet > > default of 1,500 bytes to, say, 1,400 bytes), OSPF breaks. > > What the engineer doesn't know is what experience will teach > > him, painfully. Had he read about the rules that govern > > adjacency formation of link state routing protocols, he'd > > know that MTU mismatch will lead to failure of the same. Had > > he taken the time to read up and study on this, he wouldn't > > have had to learn it the hard way (and very likely, avoid > > risking his job or his company's service reputation). > > > > As you can see from the above, I'm not merely saying > > certification is the best form of "reading". Even after > > certification, you need to maintain your edge, because > > certification renewals only occur once every 2 - 3 years, > > but a lot can happen in the Networking industry within that > > span of time (and I can't take, for an excuse, "I didn't > > cover that during my certification and it only appeared in > > the renewal 3 years later"). > > > > There are tons of reading sources online; either from IETF > > documents, vendor publications, books, mailing lists, blogs, > > workshops, conferences, e.t.c. It's a wealth of information > > and knowledge. Mix that with practical application, and > > you're good to go. > > > > That would be my recommendation to an up & coming network or > > systems engineer. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20091130/6483799f/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:51:43 +0100 From: Emmanuel Mulo <[email protected]> Subject: [LUG] Yahoo Traffic (Proxy) Server To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, I am not sure whether this information has been previously posted on this mailing list, however I saw something about Yahoo traffic server being released as open source. Since I have seen previously a number of requests concerning proxy servers for load balancing, content filtering etc... would be interesting to hear from any sysadmins experimenting with this. It is used by Yahoo so it has to be good for something no? :) http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TS/Traffic+Server http://ostatic.com/blog/guest-post-yahoos-cloud-team-open-sources-traffic-server Anybody who does something with it please update us.. at least I would be interested to hear.. Joseph? Reinier? cheers Mulo ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:51:47 +0200 From: Hari Kurup <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] linux.or.ug To: [email protected], Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 11/30/09 10:43 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:- > On Monday 30 November 2009 04:34:28 pm McTim wrote: > >> but it doesn't seem to route flapping, the link via >> KDN/Infocom is still up: > > If the .ug <=> .ke link is still up, then something else is > going on. looks like it has been fixed as we are back on Infocom. hk-02:~ hari$ traceroute -I linux.or.ug traceroute to linux.or.ug (41.220.5.16), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets 1 mr3-28.meraka.csir.co.za (146.64.28.30) 0.846 ms 16.682 ms 0.195 ms 2 sanren-csir.meraka.csir.co.za (146.64.86.254) 0.563 ms 1.462 ms 0.544 ms 3 dur1-t100-pta1-t45.net.tenet.ac.za (155.232.6.30) 13.133 ms 18.171 ms 12.967 ms 4 dur2-t11-dur1-t101.net.tenet.ac.za (155.232.2.5) 16.493 ms 13.160 ms 13.126 ms 5 lnd1-ub-pos400-dur1-pos300.net.tenet.ac.za (196.32.209.45) 228.101 ms 227.694 ms 227.511 ms 6 te-3-3.r00.londen05.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (83.231.146.65) 228.010 ms 227.539 ms 228.320 ms 7 xe-3-2.r01.londen05.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.91) 227.668 ms 227.706 ms 227.956 ms 8 xe-7-2.r01.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.186) 229.182 ms 228.529 ms 229.249 ms 9 xe-0.level3.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.138) 398.274 ms 344.737 ms 421.960 ms 10 ae-2-52.edge3.london1.level3.net (4.69.139.105) 227.872 ms * * 11 gb-1-2-1.br1.nairobi.kdn.co.ke (212.113.15.98) 229.244 ms * * 12 * * * 13 41.220.228.34 (41.220.228.34) 420.087 ms 419.893 ms 420.363 ms 14 static-41-222-1-6.metronet.imul.com (41.222.1.6) 421.017 ms 421.951 ms 421.283 ms 15 41.221.81.118 (41.221.81.118) 434.599 ms 432.535 ms 468.246 ms 16 41.220.12.34 (41.220.12.34) 448.083 ms 463.601 ms * 17 41.220.12.50 (41.220.12.50) 453.818 ms 431.289 ms 429.436 ms 18 if-ctu-core-ei.data.co.ug (41.220.12.42) 433.568 ms 432.992 ms * 19 217-212-242-51.customer.telia.com (217.212.242.51) 430.408 ms 427.605 ms 423.716 ms 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 41.220.5.22 (41.220.5.22) 429.980 ms 428.125 ms 441.201 ms 23 hosting3.mounbatten.net (41.220.5.16) 428.555 ms * 447.069 ms -- Hari ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug End of LUG Digest, Vol 63, Issue 76 ***********************************
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