I so am not going to comment on that. -- rgds,
Reinier Battenberg Director Mountbatten Ltd. +256 782 801 749 www.mountbatten.net Do you have a businessplan? Make your idea work: www.startyourbusiness.ug On Friday 08 January 2010 17:22:54 Simon Vass wrote: > To be honest fella you'd be better posting this to here anyhow, seems the > UIXP ain't the place to complain about weird routing or the like. > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > Email: [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reinier Battenberg" <[email protected]> > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 8 January, 2010 16:14:00 GMT +03:00 Iraq > Subject: [LUG] Re: [UIXP Techies] africa online link is extremely slow > > Hi, > > Ok, i succumb, I will advise people with an ISP that performs like in this > example to contact their helpdesks in future and stay out of that process > myself. > > But: > > This is not a public list. That is why i post here. This is a list for the > techies to exchange relevant information. Like routing announcements or > downtime. So not being on this list (if i understand routing correctly), is > really naive if you are an ISP that peers. I have contacted every ISP I > knew that was not on this list personally to make sure they knew, and most > of them have joined, including AOL. If they dropped off, that is not my > fault. If you know they dropped off, then nothing is stopping you from > re-inviting them. > > So, when everyone who is supposed to be on this list is really on, and we > want to keep this underperformance to ourselves, this is a perfect place > to post. Unless someone wants to pay me for monitoring Ugandan networks, > then it becomes my job to do your work. And then I will go through the > painful process of explaining your helpdesks that there is something like > a UIXP, and NO it is NOT the MTN/UTL/Infocom/etc. website that is slow. > > Any consumer on the other hand, would have posted this on his blog, on i- > network (as your PR department how that feels), on facebook and off course > on twitter. > > A twit about this issue could look something like: > http://twitter.com/batje/statuses/7516933762 for example. > > And sorry, what is the point of peering with someone who has a ping of > 4000ms on the first hop? It is faster to route traffic via London. > > But what do i care anyways? You are selling connectivity, not me. > > > I'm trying my best not to say anything but sorry guys i failed. Surely > > we need to respect this list and the operaters too. Everyone but one > > member follows the proper procedures. If you have a service issue you > > contact the published contact people not broadcast to the rest of the > > world. > > > > Lets all please try to respect this list and keep it purely on technical > > and IXP routing issues. > > > > If we do not draw a line somewhere we will see this list deteriorate like > > many others. > > > > tech...@uixp means the list is for techies working for peers who would > > know how to contact their opposites. So i do not buy the line of > > informing clients of ISP's about service issues. > > > > regards > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of Patrick Okui > > > Sent: 08 January 2010 14:34 > > > To: Reinier Battenberg > > > Cc: UiXP techies > > > Subject: Re: [UIXP Techies] africa online link is extremely slow > > > > > > On 8 Jan, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > > > > So, either I mail here, or i dont mail, and just conclude that AOL > > > > (or whoever > > > > is next) sucks. Which i do share when people ask me. (and they do, > > > > all the > > > > time) This way, I give AOL a chance to sort their issue out. I am > > > > really, > > > > believe it or not, trying to be nice. > > > > > > Suit yourself, my point is that... > > > > > > > I mail here as well, because the alternative is that I let the > > > > people who are > > > > paying for your service call you and explain to your frontline > > > > support what > > > > both people on either side of the line do not understand in full > > > > (yes, there > > > > are exceptions, especially with the smaller ISPs, this is on > > > > > > average). > > > > > > > > > in most ISPs, a complaint filed in this way will reach the responsible > > > person(s) faster. With a higher priority. Especially if this is a > > > chaotic time for the people involved and hence there is no time to > > > look at posts on public lists. > > > > > > -- > > > patrick > > > _______________________________________________ > > > UiXP techies discussion list > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. --------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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