MTN have a GCC too so we won't be seeing them or BB throw anything over the IX. 
So that leaves Infocom I guess? 


Simon Vass 
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E-Tech Uganda Ltd 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Barnard" <[email protected]>
To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2011 1:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Donating servers.. where?


I think you missed what McTim was saying. Orange is receiving ~30Mbps from the 
GGC at UTL. Orange is not using this ~30Mbps on its own transit connection, but 
still pays for it even if its unused. UTL on the other hand, have increased 
their transit traffic a few notches in Mpbs thanks to the requests coming from 
Orange to the GGC at UTL. 

Segment the analysis of the service delivery and it will make sense 

tier 1 provider -> Orange -> Customers 

It does not matter if Orange get some 30 odd Mbps from UTL at the UIXP, they 
will still PAY the tier 1 provider for whatever bandwidth they signed up for. 

MTN may have refused this kind of setup because when it was put forward, they 
were still on satellite and no fibre in sight. Increasing your satellite 
traffic by 30Mbps would offset you a few tens of thousand of dollars. UTL may 
have foreseen the advantage of having it and waiting for the fibre connectivity 
to get here and use that as leverage. Orange wanted it, they asked for it, they 
got it... if the other peers were ignorant to this or arrogant about it, don't 
blame anyone else. 




On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Reinier Battenberg < 
[email protected] > wrote: 







AFAIK, they dont. The deal with the Google cache is that you may host it, and 
you then are obliged to give other peers in your country free access. 

That is why the MTN cache is slightly different (because of the sms stuff they 
also had going) and MTN never gave anyone access to their cache. 

Its probably also the reason why it took 3 years to have the first ISP use the 
UIXP to get access to a cache. 




-- 

rgds, 



Reinier Battenberg 

Director 

Mountbatten Ltd. 

+256 758 801 749 

www.mountbatten.net 








On Tuesday 18 January 2011 10:57:58 McTim wrote: 

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Reinier Battenberg 

> 

> < [email protected] > wrote: 

> > UIXP traffic is free (AFAIK), and Orange is selling it to their clients 

> > at 250USD/Mbs at least to their clients. 

> 

> I see what you mean now. However, it's not as cut and dried as that. 

> They pay someone (or multiple someones) for transit. that's not free. 

> The fact that they are getting ~30 Mbps from the GGC means that this 

> traffic will be delivered faster to their customers than from transit 

> links. It doesn't mean that they are paying for 30Mb/s less transit 

> however. It's just 30Mbps less transit than they are using. Make 

> sense? 


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